Bill Clinton Isn’t Happy with Hillary’s Campaign
Slipping in the polls, Clinton’s staff is panicking and stumbling… which doesn’t make Bill Clinton happy.
According to Bloomberg Bill Clinton isn’t happy with the way his wife’s campaign is run. He’s “bouncing off the walls,” according to Bloomberg, “at the campaign’s ineptitude in the past few weeks.”
In turn, some aides to Hillary aren’t happy with the former president’s remarks last week that were interpreted as if he said that he was against the War in Iraq from the beginning.

Meanwhile, there seems to be a certain atmosphere of panic in Hillaryland. They realize they’re slipping in the polls and they’re not able to stop it. Up to now that is. According to some sources, Hillary is considering a shake-up. She’s thinking about bringing in John Podesta for instance, to run the campaign for her.
Such a move seems wise. She’s slipping in the polls because her campaign is quite weak at this moment. She isn’t able to answer Obama’s attacks. She went negative on him but that fired back. She isn’t able to deal with negative press… In short; she’s got to bring in some new blood: people who are able to fight. They thought she would still be leading comfortably in the polls, but that’s not the case. She’s in trouble. To overcome this she and her campaign need a different mindset.
As Bloomberg points out: Bill Clinton would be able to make that switch, can Hillary?
The article is also interesting for another reason: it’s about how Democratic voters, activists, etc. think about Clinton and Obama. Obama’s weakness is, according to them, his inexperience and the color of his skin. They seem to believe that “the country isn’t ready for a black president” which I think is not true – polling indicates that it most certainly is. With regards to Clinton her weakness is her political divisiveness and that she’s “devious” and “calculating,” according to these Democrats.
They were split, 50-50, on who they would support, but the general mood was that Obama is the better candidate if it wasn’t for his inexperience. His enthusiasm, energy and message stick.
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Totally plausible. Then again, when isn’t Bil bouncing off the walls with frustration at a candidate not named Bill Clinton? We heard the same thing about both Gore and Kerry. I hope they’ve got some rubber walls in Chappaqua.
Hillary is not the only scary candidate in this field, but you can count on one thing. Whoever wins the Democrat nomination will be trying to convince voters that their Republican adversary is the scary one.
Democrat pollster Peter Hart did some work on a focus group of Democrat supporters and learned a harsh lesson about the politics of victimhood and racism. If you push people to believe they can never get ahead in America due to their race, they will never have the confidence to get ahead – and therefore can never be relied on to support their own candidates!










Bravo for Allison. I suspect the world would like to see the same thing.
and two blonde’s in-between. If he’s anything – he’s damn good at campaigning.
Not for her it’s not. Which is good for her, bad for everybody else.
Interested: you think that Obama can’t win the early states? Frankly, I think Hillary’s in trouble, which should encourage you.
She’s now virtually tied in every early primary state. If Obama wins Iowa, and he could, he could go on to win New Hampshire and South Carolina.
It’s still way too close for my comfort. Sure there are promising signs of weakness in Hillaryland, but I won’t be calm unless Obama leads comfortably in Iowa. If I knew he would almost certainly win Iowa, I could believe he’d use that as momentum in the rest of the states.
It’s only three and a half weeks to go, doesn’t seem like much, but lately we’ve been seeing lots of upsets, so it’s way too early to tell what will happen.
I would say it should encourage America & the World.
Could and will are two different things. I think he could win Iowa maybe, I doubt New Hampshire though. When it boils down to it it will not be on race or gender, it wont be on which way the wind blows this week on an issue, it won’t be on experience, it won’t be on global warming, it won’t be on the economy, it won’t be on health care, it won’t be on anything other than electability.
That will be the main and deciding factor. With her unique positioning she would be able to overcome a loss in Iowa & NH if that were to happen. I think she could upturn history and create new.
"& the World"
She’s very popular abroad.
Let her run the Netherlands then.
And in France, Germany, Italy, should I go on?
And – why? She can be very popular. We’re allies. It’s good for the US to have a popular president.
Sure go on as long as you want. Start a petition to get her over there. I know quite a few people that would sign it.
We’re better than that – I think it’s better for you to have her.
We’d take her.
She would be a considerable improvement over the socialists (and laborites) running this country, who are happily joined these days by the Christian Democrats.
lol your probably right – but go for it anyway, please take her.
And when it comes to election time – if allies like the candidate? It’s way way way down on most voter’s issue lists or minds. Sure it should be an issue on the plate. But people primarily vote with their wallets first, and if wallet feels secure then they go on security, etc. There are obvious alterations such as the 06 election, but still as an overall.
Yes I agree with you about what voters vote for. It’s about their own interests, which is why full democracy is perhaps not always… good. Sometimes one could agrue that dividing people into ‘interest groups’ would be wiser.
Anyway, again, she would be a considerable improvement. She would be right-of-center here, or center at worst.
You should be thanking me – I could be trying to give you Kerry & Edwards.
Hillary’s problem in the primary is that she’s right-of-center here in America and she’s trying to win votes out of the left. Sure, she voted against the tax cuts, except the one on capital gains. If her votes had made the policy, investors would have been the only ones to get a break.
And on the war, she’s voted for just about everything Bush requested. Its no coincidence that the weapons manufacturers favor her for their donations at this point in the primary race. Although she’s funded so much of it with her votes and her committee work, she’s able to criticize Bush as "doing it wrong" and sort of tricking people into thinking she’s against the war itself. She’s really just saying she’d be better at it.
But it seems like the candidate’s are so far from the public opinion on so many issues that the votes will come down to who is more trustworthy and likable.
We’ve got people like Kerry and Edwards. They’re further left than Hillary is. So please keep them.
Underground: I don’t quite see how you can call Clinton right-of-center in the US. She’s reasonably moderate / towards the Center, but right-of-center… definitely not (education, health care, economy, size federal government, affirmative action, etc.).
Hillary’s health-care proposal has an identical cost as Bush’s last proposal – the $100 billion dollar drug benefit he pushed. Like Bush’s bill went to the drug companies, Hillary’s will be headed to the insurance companies. On education, Bush actually increased federal funding for education as a percentage faster than anyone before him.
The notion that the Republican and Democratic parties are differentiated in the traditional "right/left"of economic and spending issues is sort of a political myth in my opinion – but one that’s useful for the parties to maintain. The real issues that determine elections are usually related to social regulation – abortions, gay marriage – or war or how the average consumer "feels" about the economy.
Anyone who has read Hillary’s early-career writings will have a hard time buying the "Hillary is a right-winger" meme that is spewing from the hard left wing of the Democratic Party. She is setting up a "hawk" image on foreign policy because her advisors feel that, as a woman, she has to hedge against the image that a woman president would be weak on defense. But her position on budgetary and social issues are consistently and mostly conventionally liberal.
Michael, if Hillary Clinton is elected president, I guarantee you she won’t be popular in Europe any more.
I’m surprised that Bill Clinton hasn’t taken a bigger role in running the campaign since he obviously knows far better than most what it takes to win.
"hawk" image on foreign policy
I’d say she’s done pretty well since the weapons manufacturers are picking her as a favorite while she manages to hold on to a large part of the anti-war vote. Forget the speeches, forget the writings and look at the votes & money – that’s the only place politicians tell the "truth."
her position on budgetary and social issues are consistently and mostly conventionally liberal
Then Bush’s budgetary policies must be liberal, too. Using tax money to fund private for-profit corporations isn’t really "leftist" at all, nor does it jive with a "right-wing" ideology of free markets – although both parties have been very active in trying to justify such spending as a core value of their party. "Corporate welfare" is something that both sides claim to hate, yet actually demand at the same time.
You just noticed that?
I notice you don’t have any actual refutation for my point, just the attempt to change the subject.
I’m saying the whole paradigm of left vs. right as a way to define government spending is at best obsolete, and at worst maliciously and intentionally deceitful on behalf of the parties.
What part of the "left" demands tax dollars be used on for-profit corporate welfare? And how is that different than the "right?" It doesn’t and its not, so we’re left with social issues (where she is moderate at best) and foreign policy (where she’s the biggest hawk in her party)
Two more entries for the Dictionary of Political Spin:
"corporate welfare" n. Government expenditure that the user dislikes.
"public investment" n. Government expenditure that the user likes.
Sorry, "underground", but throwing around spin words does not constitute an argument.
I understand from other threads that you’re one of the Paulistas. When are you guys going to base your arguments on substance instead of just Scary Words ™? Yawn.
I’m sympathetic to the ‘corporate welfare’ charge though, Jason, even as a conservative. I think it’s true that too many politicians of both parties are influenced by corporate money, and the distinctions that used to exist between the GOP policies favoring corporations vs. Democrats opposing them have been blurred.
Also blurred, but still very much in effect, is the distinction between the parties on entitlement spending, underground. You leave that out of the equation, yet even with the recent GOP being big spenders there is still a philosophical difference in the inevitability of wealth redistribution via govt policy between the two parties. Look at Hillary Clinton’s proposal for baby bonds, and Giuliani using it to mock her; obviously this is a prime example of where the base of each party lies.
But Scary Words™ are so impressive….
Sorry. Rhetoric is rife in election season, and the last several years that’s been all the time.
The problem with the "corporate welfare" term, Christine, is that its users rarely if ever specify exactly which expenditures they are objecting to. For most voters, there are some government expenditures that are seen as useful and even necessary — infrastructure investments, technology investments, research investments in medicine and basic science. When the Paulistas use sweeping, generalized condemnations of "corporate welfare", there is no way to tell if they would wipe these out.
One thing that is notable from the Paulistas, however, is their glaring hypocrisy on the point of government spending as it relates to Social Security. While they pose and prance about opposing "corporate welfare", Ron Paul’s official web site promises to maintain all existing Social Security benefits for the current massive wave of retirees associated with the "baby boomer generation" with NO cuts, NO reevaluation, NO means testing, NO revision, NO reconsideration, and, most importantly, NO consideration of affordability. The ONLY way that these benefits could be maintained (any transition to private accounts would only affect later generations) would be through massive tax increases on current workers. But Ron Paul, being from the older generation and beholden to it, suddenly doesn’t stand on anti-"welfare" principle quite as strongly.
That seems relevant to this to me because it highlights the selectivity and arbitrariness to what id deemed an unacceptable government expenditure to the Paulistas. Just like with Social Security, the Paulistas would probably just say that any expenditure that is in their self-interest would suddenly get relabeled as an “investment” and not “corporate welfare” any more. Basically, it really does come down to being "corporate welfare" when they don’t like it and "investment" when they do like it. There is no more principle to it than that which makes them indistinguishable from the people they pride themselves on opposing. The term “corporate welfare” simply has no objective meaning.
I understand that criticism, Jason, but I just wouldn’t object to the term itself if properly used and defined, and if not selectively applied.
I disagree a bit with your point about Paul’s stance on SS. I do see a meaningful distinction there because the recipients have paid into the sytem and did so with certain agreements made by the govt- and we now have an obligation to uphold those agreements.
The idea that we are locked into a fiscal suicide pact simply because "we promised" is depressing, to say the least. And, frankly, for people who pose as the exceptionally honest on issues of budgetary policy, I would expect the Paulistas to have a better response than just throwing up their hands and saying that it is an obligation regardless of cost or sustainability. It is particularly problematic in light of the fact that Paul’s anti-immigration stance (another anti-libertarian contradiction that his supporters overlook) would inevitably exacerbate the problem by producing the exact same labor shortage and retirement program funding crisis that already plagues Europe and Japan. (The ONLY thing that has helped keep the U.S. Social Security system even on the margins of long-term sustainability is immigration at a rate FAR higher than the official legal quotas.)
LOL, well, I’d agree with that, and all the more reason it should have been addressed before it became such a fiscal nightmare.
Well, it wasn’t and we have to deal with where we are now, not where we wish we had been. And I don’t think that any candidate can pose as the fiscally serious candidate while refusing to seriously address the Social Security issue. Ron Paul fails that test dramatically. And, by doing so, he and his automatons forfeit any claim to lecture the rest of us about "corporate welfare" or any other fiscal issue, IMO. They should tend their own ideological gardens instead of claiming not to have them.
What are you going to do with social security? Tell all those people who were forced into funding it that they won’t get the return they were promised?
The ONLY way that these benefits could be maintained (any transition to private accounts would only affect later generations) would be through massive tax increases on current workers
Why, because you think other spending cuts are impossible?
it really does come down to being "corporate welfare" when they don’t like it and "investment" when they do like it
Well for all your kicking and screaming and dragging Ron Paul into this, you seem to have understood and agreed what I was trying to say in the first place. Left and Right on spending issues is just a smart way of politically posturing around some funding and convincing your base that its one and not the other. After watching Democrats protest Bush’s early term education increases (NCLB) and Republicans cheering this growth of federal government, hasn’t the absurdity of this paradigm sunk in yet?
Whoah, I agree with you, more than Ron Paul, on immigration.
If you could show me a candidate who agrees with Ron Paul on fiscal issues and foreign policy, but is more libertarian on abortion, immigration, and trade – you could convert me!
Yes, I think spending cuts on the scope necessary to fund the multi-trillion-dollar Social Security and Medicare entitlements that Ron Paul refuses to even look askance at are not possible.
Your particular partisan error lies in using Republican and Democrat as perfect proxies for left and right, liberal and conservative. I may agree that there is little difference between Republicans and Democrats on this issue, but I would not agree that there is little difference between "left" and "right". That spin is just one of those extracts from the Ron Paul campaign talking points and I refuse to sign on to an agenda written by a set of hypocrites, especially when that agenda is designed specifically to cover up their hypocrisy.
I would love a candidate that would take seriously the looming fiscal crisis in our country. Unfortunately, there is only one that even pretends to do so (Ron Paul) and he is lying about it. Instead of trying sweeping criticisms of "the system" or "corporate welfare", we need to argue about specific programs. Care to try it? Or are you stuck in the generalities provided for you by the Ron Paul talking points?
I prefer Hillary Clinton to Ron Paul on foreign policy by a mile. Clinton’s approach, while curiously inconsistent compared to her earliest days in Washington, is at least more responsive to the realities of the contemporary international system and does not rely on unrealistic fantasies of a world where material power is meaningless and interdependence is a matter of choice. I’ve tried to talk over these problems with Paulistas, but they degenerated so quickly into name-calling that it became apparent that there is nothing behind the talking points and the cult of personality.
Sure, I can name specific programs but Ron Paul has already addressed them too so I run the risk of being accused of being stuck on talking points. Might as well start alphabetically.
$89 billion net proposed 2008 outlays – Dept. of Agriculture: Cut the subsidized loans from the Commodity Credit Corporation (which is supposed to stabilize food prices – hah), save $10 billion a year. Keep a billion to run the credit administration and pay defaults. Even if you keep food stamps, school lunch programs, and crop insurance, you can save some money here.$583 billion net proposed 2008 outlays – Department of Defense: If you think destroying, and rebuilding, and destroying, and rebuilding the Middle-East is important to national defense, or that we need military bases in most of the world to be safe at home, maybe there’s nothing to cut here. Otherwise, $200 billion savings would be a safe bet once you consider all the supplemental DOD funding that is almost sure to be passed.$58 billion net proposed 2008 outlays – Dept. of Education: Founded in 1980, after only 15 years of any federal education funding. Cut the budget to about $5 billion to address only the constitutional mandate I see: protecting equal access and resolving discrimination disputes. (Don’t get me started on Pell Grants or federally subsidized student loans, I’ll just say they are incredibly inflationary and politely request that I can leave it at that until I have to go back to work where I spend all day helping students find financial aid.) The states do an excellent job of establishing public elementary, secondary, and post-secondary schools.That’s only a 10% cut, but its one that isn’t going to hurt anyone (ok, maybe some farmers who are good at gaming the cheap loan system and some foreign countries who like what our bases do for their local economy).
What you really need to tackle is Health & Human Services, particularly Medicare, pharmaceutical benefits, and the rapidly growing health costs. I don’t think this can be simplified by cutting or increasing spending: you need to reform how the law interacts with the market. I’d even take some advice from France: Severely limit lawsuits against doctors.
I hate to use government intervention as a means of preventing government intervention, but you could literally take millions of people off the future disability rolls just by universally blood testing for Celiac and pre-diabetes. Current medical demand is irrational: people go to the doctor for every sinus infection and the doctors are happy to prescribe antibiotics for something that is usually viral. I’ll reduce demand personally by staying out of that pill queue, and encouraging people to take charge of their own health with education, diet, and exercise. I don’t have a magic bullet for the medical issues, but I know that throwing more money at it is part of the problem we’re in and not the solution to cheaper, sustainable rates.
But at this point, I’d be happy for any candidate who isn’t trying to get elected on a new set of promises and a new glut of spending. I think cuts are not only possible, but also needed.