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		<title>By: Health Insurance Florida Individual Health Insurance Patient Safety</title>
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		<dc:creator>Health Insurance Florida Individual Health Insurance Patient Safety</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Health Insurance Florida Individual Health Insurance Patient Safety...&lt;/strong&gt;

I didn&#039;t agree with you first, but last paragraph makes sense for me...</description>
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<p>I didn&#8217;t agree with you first, but last paragraph makes sense for me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: underground</title>
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		<dc:creator>underground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, I can name specific programs but Ron Paul has already addressed them too so I run the risk of being accused of being stuck on talking points.  Might as well start alphabetically.

$89 billion net proposed 2008 outlays - Dept. of Agriculture: Cut the subsidized loans from the Commodity Credit Corporation (which is supposed to stabilize food prices - hah), save $10 billion a year.  Keep a billion to run the credit administration and pay defaults.  Even if you keep food stamps, school lunch programs, and crop insurance, you can save some money here.$583 billion net proposed 2008 outlays - Department of Defense:  If you think destroying, and rebuilding, and destroying, and rebuilding the Middle-East is important to national defense, or that we need military bases in most of the world to be safe at home, maybe there&#039;s nothing to cut here.  Otherwise, $200 billion savings would be a &lt;strong&gt;safe &lt;/strong&gt;bet once you consider all the supplemental DOD funding that is almost sure to be passed.$58 billion net proposed 2008 outlays - Dept. of Education:  Founded in 1980, after only 15 years of &lt;strong&gt;any &lt;/strong&gt;federal education funding.  Cut the budget to about $5 billion to address only the constitutional mandate I see:  protecting equal access and resolving discrimination disputes.  (Don&#039;t get me started on Pell Grants or federally subsidized student loans, I&#039;ll just say they are incredibly inflationary and politely request that I can leave it at that until I have to go back to work where I spend all day helping students find financial aid.)  The states do an excellent job of establishing public elementary, secondary, and post-secondary schools.That&#039;s only a 10% cut, but its one that isn&#039;t going to hurt anyone (ok, maybe some farmers who are good at gaming the cheap loan system and some foreign countries who like what our bases do for their local economy).  

What you really need to tackle is Health &amp; Human Services, particularly Medicare, pharmaceutical benefits, and the rapidly growing health costs.  I don&#039;t think this can be simplified by cutting or increasing spending:  you need to reform how the law interacts with the market.  I&#039;d even take some advice from France:  Severely limit lawsuits against doctors.

I hate to use government intervention as a means of preventing government intervention, but you could literally take millions of people off the future disability rolls just by universally blood testing for Celiac and pre-diabetes.  Current medical demand is irrational:  people go to the doctor for every sinus infection and the doctors are happy to prescribe antibiotics for something that is usually viral.  I&#039;ll reduce demand personally by staying out of that pill queue, and encouraging people to take charge of their own health with education, diet, and exercise.  I don&#039;t have a magic bullet for the medical issues, but I know that throwing more money at it is part of the problem we&#039;re in and not the solution to cheaper, sustainable rates.

But at this point, I&#039;d be happy for any candidate who isn&#039;t trying to get elected on a new set of promises and a new glut of spending.  I think cuts are not only possible, but also needed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I can name specific programs but Ron Paul has already addressed them too so I run the risk of being accused of being stuck on talking points.  Might as well start alphabetically.</p>
<p>$89 billion net proposed 2008 outlays &#8211; Dept. of Agriculture: Cut the subsidized loans from the Commodity Credit Corporation (which is supposed to stabilize food prices &#8211; hah), save $10 billion a year.  Keep a billion to run the credit administration and pay defaults.  Even if you keep food stamps, school lunch programs, and crop insurance, you can save some money here.$583 billion net proposed 2008 outlays &#8211; Department of Defense:  If you think destroying, and rebuilding, and destroying, and rebuilding the Middle-East is important to national defense, or that we need military bases in most of the world to be safe at home, maybe there&#8217;s nothing to cut here.  Otherwise, $200 billion savings would be a <strong>safe </strong>bet once you consider all the supplemental DOD funding that is almost sure to be passed.$58 billion net proposed 2008 outlays &#8211; Dept. of Education:  Founded in 1980, after only 15 years of <strong>any </strong>federal education funding.  Cut the budget to about $5 billion to address only the constitutional mandate I see:  protecting equal access and resolving discrimination disputes.  (Don&#8217;t get me started on Pell Grants or federally subsidized student loans, I&#8217;ll just say they are incredibly inflationary and politely request that I can leave it at that until I have to go back to work where I spend all day helping students find financial aid.)  The states do an excellent job of establishing public elementary, secondary, and post-secondary schools.That&#8217;s only a 10% cut, but its one that isn&#8217;t going to hurt anyone (ok, maybe some farmers who are good at gaming the cheap loan system and some foreign countries who like what our bases do for their local economy).  </p>
<p>What you really need to tackle is Health &amp; Human Services, particularly Medicare, pharmaceutical benefits, and the rapidly growing health costs.  I don&#8217;t think this can be simplified by cutting or increasing spending:  you need to reform how the law interacts with the market.  I&#8217;d even take some advice from France:  Severely limit lawsuits against doctors.</p>
<p>I hate to use government intervention as a means of preventing government intervention, but you could literally take millions of people off the future disability rolls just by universally blood testing for Celiac and pre-diabetes.  Current medical demand is irrational:  people go to the doctor for every sinus infection and the doctors are happy to prescribe antibiotics for something that is usually viral.  I&#8217;ll reduce demand personally by staying out of that pill queue, and encouraging people to take charge of their own health with education, diet, and exercise.  I don&#8217;t have a magic bullet for the medical issues, but I know that throwing more money at it is part of the problem we&#8217;re in and not the solution to cheaper, sustainable rates.</p>
<p>But at this point, I&#8217;d be happy for any candidate who isn&#8217;t trying to get elected on a new set of promises and a new glut of spending.  I think cuts are not only possible, but also needed. </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Steck</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2007/12/10/bill-clinton-isnt-happy-with-hillarys-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-10344</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Steck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer Hillary Clinton to Ron Paul on foreign policy by a mile.  Clinton&#039;s approach, while curiously inconsistent compared to her earliest days in Washington, is at least more responsive to the realities of the contemporary international system and does not rely on unrealistic fantasies of a world where material power is meaningless and interdependence is a matter of choice.  I&#039;ve tried to talk over these problems with Paulistas, but they degenerated so quickly into name-calling that it became apparent that there is nothing behind the talking points and the cult of personality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer Hillary Clinton to Ron Paul on foreign policy by a mile.  Clinton&#8217;s approach, while curiously inconsistent compared to her earliest days in Washington, is at least more responsive to the realities of the contemporary international system and does not rely on unrealistic fantasies of a world where material power is meaningless and interdependence is a matter of choice.  I&#8217;ve tried to talk over these problems with Paulistas, but they degenerated so quickly into name-calling that it became apparent that there is nothing behind the talking points and the cult of personality.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Steck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Steck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think spending cuts on the scope necessary to fund the multi-trillion-dollar Social Security and Medicare entitlements that Ron Paul refuses to even look askance at are not possible.

Your particular partisan error lies in using Republican and Democrat as perfect proxies for left and right, liberal and conservative.  I may agree that there is little difference between Republicans and Democrats on this issue, but I would not agree that there is little difference between &quot;left&quot; and &quot;right&quot;.  That spin is just one of those extracts from the Ron Paul campaign talking points and I refuse to sign on to an agenda written by a set of hypocrites, especially when that agenda is designed specifically to cover up their hypocrisy.

I would love a candidate that would take seriously the looming fiscal crisis in our country.  Unfortunately, there is only one that even pretends to do so (Ron Paul) and he is lying about it.  Instead of trying sweeping criticisms of &quot;the system&quot; or &quot;corporate welfare&quot;, we need to argue about &lt;em&gt;specific programs&lt;/em&gt;.  Care to try it?  Or are you stuck in the generalities provided for you by the Ron Paul talking points?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think spending cuts on the scope necessary to fund the multi-trillion-dollar Social Security and Medicare entitlements that Ron Paul refuses to even look askance at are not possible.</p>
<p>Your particular partisan error lies in using Republican and Democrat as perfect proxies for left and right, liberal and conservative.  I may agree that there is little difference between Republicans and Democrats on this issue, but I would not agree that there is little difference between &quot;left&quot; and &quot;right&quot;.  That spin is just one of those extracts from the Ron Paul campaign talking points and I refuse to sign on to an agenda written by a set of hypocrites, especially when that agenda is designed specifically to cover up their hypocrisy.</p>
<p>I would love a candidate that would take seriously the looming fiscal crisis in our country.  Unfortunately, there is only one that even pretends to do so (Ron Paul) and he is lying about it.  Instead of trying sweeping criticisms of &quot;the system&quot; or &quot;corporate welfare&quot;, we need to argue about <em>specific programs</em>.  Care to try it?  Or are you stuck in the generalities provided for you by the Ron Paul talking points?</p>
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		<title>By: underground</title>
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		<dc:creator>underground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoah, I agree with you, more than Ron Paul, on immigration.  

If you could show me a candidate who agrees with Ron Paul on fiscal issues and foreign policy, but is &lt;em&gt;more libertarian&lt;/em&gt; on abortion, immigration, and trade - you could convert me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoah, I agree with you, more than Ron Paul, on immigration.  </p>
<p>If you could show me a candidate who agrees with Ron Paul on fiscal issues and foreign policy, but is <em>more libertarian</em> on abortion, immigration, and trade &#8211; you could convert me!</p>
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		<title>By: underground</title>
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		<dc:creator>underground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you going to do with social security?  Tell all those people who were &lt;strong&gt;forced &lt;/strong&gt;into funding it that they won&#039;t get the return they were promised?

&lt;em&gt;The ONLY way that these benefits could be maintained (any transition to private accounts would only affect later generations) would be through massive tax increases on current workers

&lt;/em&gt;Why, because you think other spending cuts are impossible?  

&lt;em&gt;it really does come down to being &quot;corporate welfare&quot; when they don’t like it and &quot;investment&quot; when they do like it

&lt;/em&gt;Well for all your kicking and screaming and dragging Ron Paul into this, you seem to have understood and agreed what I was trying to say in the first place.  Left and Right on spending issues is just a smart way of politically posturing around some funding and convincing your base that its one and not the other.  After watching Democrats protest Bush&#039;s early term education increases (NCLB) and Republicans cheering this growth of federal government, hasn&#039;t the absurdity of this paradigm sunk in yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you going to do with social security?  Tell all those people who were <strong>forced </strong>into funding it that they won&#8217;t get the return they were promised?</p>
<p><em>The ONLY way that these benefits could be maintained (any transition to private accounts would only affect later generations) would be through massive tax increases on current workers</p>
<p></em>Why, because you think other spending cuts are impossible?  </p>
<p><em>it really does come down to being &quot;corporate welfare&quot; when they don’t like it and &quot;investment&quot; when they do like it</p>
<p></em>Well for all your kicking and screaming and dragging Ron Paul into this, you seem to have understood and agreed what I was trying to say in the first place.  Left and Right on spending issues is just a smart way of politically posturing around some funding and convincing your base that its one and not the other.  After watching Democrats protest Bush&#8217;s early term education increases (NCLB) and Republicans cheering this growth of federal government, hasn&#8217;t the absurdity of this paradigm sunk in yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Steck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Steck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it wasn&#039;t and we have to deal with where we are now, not where we wish we had been.  And I don&#039;t think that any candidate can pose as the fiscally serious candidate while refusing to seriously address the Social Security issue.  Ron Paul fails that test dramatically.  And, by doing so, he and his automatons forfeit any claim to lecture the rest of us about &quot;corporate welfare&quot; or any other fiscal issue, IMO.  They should tend their own ideological gardens instead of claiming not to have them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it wasn&#8217;t and we have to deal with where we are now, not where we wish we had been.  And I don&#8217;t think that any candidate can pose as the fiscally serious candidate while refusing to seriously address the Social Security issue.  Ron Paul fails that test dramatically.  And, by doing so, he and his automatons forfeit any claim to lecture the rest of us about &quot;corporate welfare&quot; or any other fiscal issue, IMO.  They should tend their own ideological gardens instead of claiming not to have them.</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL, well, I&#039;d agree with that, and all the more reason it should have been addressed before it became such a fiscal nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, well, I&#8217;d agree with that, and all the more reason it should have been addressed before it became such a fiscal nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Steck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Steck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that we are locked into a fiscal suicide pact simply because &quot;we promised&quot; is depressing, to say the least.  And, frankly, for people who pose as the exceptionally honest on issues of budgetary policy, I would expect the Paulistas to have a better response than just throwing up their hands and saying that it is an obligation regardless of cost or sustainability.  It is particularly problematic in light of the fact that Paul&#039;s anti-immigration stance (another anti-libertarian contradiction that his supporters overlook) would inevitably exacerbate the problem by producing the exact same labor shortage and retirement program funding crisis that already plagues Europe and Japan.  (The ONLY thing that has helped keep the U.S. Social Security system even on the margins of long-term sustainability is immigration at a rate FAR higher than the official legal quotas.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that we are locked into a fiscal suicide pact simply because &quot;we promised&quot; is depressing, to say the least.  And, frankly, for people who pose as the exceptionally honest on issues of budgetary policy, I would expect the Paulistas to have a better response than just throwing up their hands and saying that it is an obligation regardless of cost or sustainability.  It is particularly problematic in light of the fact that Paul&#8217;s anti-immigration stance (another anti-libertarian contradiction that his supporters overlook) would inevitably exacerbate the problem by producing the exact same labor shortage and retirement program funding crisis that already plagues Europe and Japan.  (The ONLY thing that has helped keep the U.S. Social Security system even on the margins of long-term sustainability is immigration at a rate FAR higher than the official legal quotas.)</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that criticism, Jason, but I just wouldn&#039;t object to the term itself if properly used and defined, and if not selectively applied.

I disagree a bit with your point about Paul&#039;s stance on SS. I do see a meaningful distinction there because the recipients have paid into the sytem and did so with certain agreements made by the govt- and we now have an obligation to uphold those agreements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that criticism, Jason, but I just wouldn&#8217;t object to the term itself if properly used and defined, and if not selectively applied.</p>
<p>I disagree a bit with your point about Paul&#8217;s stance on SS. I do see a meaningful distinction there because the recipients have paid into the sytem and did so with certain agreements made by the govt- and we now have an obligation to uphold those agreements.</p>
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