"Obama once again said that his judgment is better than Clinton’s because he was against the war against Iraq from the start. Yeah. It’s going to be hilarious if the surge continues to work and if the US can withdraw three or four years from now, leaving behind a stable and democratic Iraq."

It was good judgement to be against it, at the time. It was bad judgement to be for it. Today, the situation is different. Obama isn’t willing to say it WAS a good idea AT THE TIME just because the situation is more promising now. It has always been wrong to be for the Iraq invasion, but that doesn’t mean it is sensible to crave complete withdrawal today.

Obama isn’t willing to apologize for making the right decision, he isn’t willing to beg for forgiveness for not thinking that this illegal, deeply flawed and politicized invasion might pay off. He is standing there, saying that it was good principles that made him vote no on the invasion, and you feel he is a threat because he isn’t an apologetic democrat.

Believe me, your kind of snark only cements the notion that Obama is a break with democrat’s uselessness and the general submission to those who think the upturn in Iraq proves that the pessimists are fundamentally wrong.

If Obama was waxing lyrical about Iraq he would be called a flip-flopper, if not by you then by many. He knows he can’t win by licking his finger and holding it up.

There is no credit in supporting the Iraq invasion on pure faith. To get all moist over someone being either an optimist or not willing to even adress the incredible waste and ineffectivity of the Iraq invasion just to preserve this optimism is sad.

"You never hear them talk about how well the surge is working (which it objectively spoken most definitely is)."

"The surge is working" – now in meme form. So lessee, AGW people are dogmatists, people who want out of Iraq sooner rather than later are surge denialists.

"They continue to repeat the talking points of one and two years ago."

You mean how the occupation is fundamentally wrong and that the US is playing for break-even – morally as well as regarding their security. That the republicans had every chance to prevent or at leat prepare for the cronyism, waste, bloodshed, looting, theft of taxpayer money, destruction of infrastructure, segregation, contractors either running rampant or taking the money for themselves etc. but did nothing because much like the bible the Iraq occupation was constructed as something perfect -its very popularity hinged on the security and comfort one feels by rooting for something perfect- that thus is allergic to improvement or editing?

What about the fact that there still is no strong data to the effect that the drop in violence is suggestive of developments that are necessary for Iraq to become a peaceful if not prosperous state?

You keep on screaming to us to catch up, as if you are far ahead in time due to your lack of BDS or whatever, but all we see is a man who is standing beside us, but on the other side of a fence, berating us for not climbing over.

"What’s more, I don’t think that Obama wants to talk about judgment right now, not considering the ludicrous comments he made recently about foreign affairs."

You mean he hasn’t made the completely rational decision to settle for the ambiguous Musharraf? Yeah, he is so darn non-foreign policy sensilish.