Fox Stands by Decision to Ban Ron Paul

January 1st, 2008 | By: Michael van der Galien

Tags:

Leave a comment

Fox doesn’t give in to the pressure: the conservative news network isn’t willing to let Ron Paul participate in the forum (read: debate) it will organize shortly before the primary of New Hampshire.

The AP reports that “[t]he network said it had limited space in its studio — a souped-up bus — and that it invited candidates who had received double-digit support in recent polls.”

The problem for Fox is, however, that Paul isn’t doing much worse than Thompson. In fact, he’s polling better than Thompson in the latest NH poll. In fact, he has almost overtaken Giuliani (only 2% less). Now, if you keep in mind that it’s likely that quite some of those who’ll vote for Paul in the Republican primary aren’t considered “likely Republican caucus goers” / polled, chances are that he’ll do (somewhat) better.

And Thompson? Thompson has only 3% support in this latest poll.

But there’s more: Paul has raised more money in the fourth quarter than most of the other Republicans. That should play a role as well, shouldn’t it?

Fox has no excuse, no good reason to ban Paul. Lord knows I criticize the Congressman and his supporters often enough, but he shouldn’t be silenced simply because some people (in powerful positions) don’t like his message (which seems to be the real reason why he wasn’t invited).

Share and Enjoy:
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Technorati
  • SphereIt
  • NewsVine
  • TailRank
  • Reddit
  • StumbleUpon
  1. dfw
    January 2nd, 2008 at 04:33
    Reply | Quote | #1

    I thought Fox was "Fair and Balanced".  Way to show your true colors.  Fox should put one of there dumb blondes on the air to explain the situation.  Then I may be able to understand.  This is exactly why I support Ron Paul.  He does not and has not catered to big corps.  The small bus excuse does not fly.  They are a billion dollor company and they cannot afford to get a large room to hold all the candidates.  Ron Paul has money, maybe they can borrow some.  I have removed the Fox channels from my Tivo.  Goodbye Fox News.

  2. Mike
    January 2nd, 2008 at 04:54
    Reply | Quote | #2

    This and the Lockheed Martin commercial is the last straw for Foxes credibility. Thy now have zero.

  3. Patrick H.
    January 2nd, 2008 at 07:52
    Reply | Quote | #3

    No single raindrop believes it is responsible for the flood. Keep spreading the word, regardless of whether RP makes the debate he will make a showing

  4. Dad
    January 2nd, 2008 at 07:59
    Reply | Quote | #4

    See you at the polls!

  5. Steve
    January 2nd, 2008 at 08:46
    Reply | Quote | #5

    Would anyone like another tasty spoonful of cow manure from the mainstream/establishment? Aww, come on, it’s much better for you than the steak they’re feeding over on the Ron Paul side! You’ve had this stuff for years, and look, you still have air conditioning and college football! What’s another third of your income to keep you safe? Give us your guns! Those foreign troops in your driveway won’t hurt you! More cow manure, you haven’t eaten nearly enough.

  6. Wockabosh
    January 2nd, 2008 at 09:43
    Reply | Quote | #6

    http://poligazette.com/2008/01/01/fox-stands-by-decision-to-ban-ron-paul/

    $19.5 million in fundraising in the last quarter is formidable and respectable.  I don’t understand why we cut candidates out of debates BEFORE Iowa/NH. 

    I was not happy when they cut Gravel/Kucinich.   But do we see a pattern here?  All anti-war candidates.   Right or wrong, they have the right to their opinion.  The media today are diversified comglomerates.   They all have financial interests (oil/weapons industry) that make war policy beneficial to them. 

    I believe that people that are indifferent or anti-Gravel, Kucinich, and especially Ron Paul, should be outraged based on principles stated by Voltaire.

    I will make my comments regarding the polls post-Iowa/NH.

  7. Gerry
    January 2nd, 2008 at 14:17
    Reply | Quote | #7

    Fox has the air time to give us Anna Nicole coverage without commercial interuption.  Maybe Ron needs a blond wig and a boob job to get Fox’s attention.

  8. Mk
    January 2nd, 2008 at 16:18
    Reply | Quote | #8

    Fix News’(Misspelling intentional) arrogance in this matter is evidence of their utter contempt for the American people.

    They will be the first to fall when this revolution truly takes hold. Ron Paul’s movement is only a minute section of what is coming.

    Fox’s days are numbered as are the other institutions that have been deluding the people.

  9. Michael
    January 2nd, 2008 at 16:30
    Reply | Quote | #9

    Deleted by site management ~ Try again, and this time leave out the body-part jokes.

  10. Van
    January 2nd, 2008 at 17:08

    Ah, Ron Paul. The candidate of choice for people who can’t speak (type?) proper English.

  11. Jimmie
    January 2nd, 2008 at 17:22

    Did somebody blow one of those whistles that only conspiracy nuts can hear?

  12. Michael van der Galien
    January 2nd, 2008 at 17:25

    Ah, Ron Paul. The candidate of choice for people who can’t speak (type?) proper English.

    Hey! I don’t support Ron Paul! :D

  13. MN
    January 2nd, 2008 at 18:27

    So what’s the big surprise here, Ron Paul types? You KNEW that Fox isn’t conservative, it’s CORPORATE. There’s a BIG difference between the two.

    A viable Ron Paul candidacy would put the lie to everything that the Roger Alies machine has been spouting for eight years. What a concept…TRUE Republicanism returns after being dead and buried since 1932.

    Naw, can’t happen. Fox will protect us from it.

  14. Lou, Sydney, Australia
    January 2nd, 2008 at 23:39

    America likes to think itself as a shining example of democracy for the world to follow, well what a joke! Your vote counting (and polling) is a charade marked only by devious sophistication compared to other banana republics. At least this move by Fox to suppress a leading candidate should open a few eyes as to how your presidents get chosen for you from a two party political system charade that only allows the CFR anointed. The sooner you guys realize exAustralian Rupert Murdoch is a traitor who actively interferes in the political process in support of the ruling elite, the sooner his media licenses’ can be turned over for real journalists who can actually do fair and balanced reporting.

  15. Jason Steck
    January 2nd, 2008 at 23:42

    allows the CFR anointed

    Point of clarification for those who might not know the tin-foil hat code: The CFR refers to the Council on Foreign Relations, a loose association of academics and former policymakers that (gasp!) holds conferences where they present speeches that no one remembers and papers that few ever read.

    For some reason, there is a significant group of conspiracy theorists out there that think the CFR is a cabal that controls American politics. I wish it were so, because then maybe my membership in the American Political Science Association or the International Studies Association might also carry some massive secret political power too….

    The irony of a person claiming to want to act for freedom by stripping media licenses from people they disagree with is rather amusing too. More evidence of the true crocodile spirit that lies beneath the Ron Paul passion…

  16. David
    January 2nd, 2008 at 23:45

    Just don’t mention the Bilderberg group Jason…..

  17. Alan
    January 2nd, 2008 at 23:52

    Jason,

    You have managed yet again to cast more scurrilous, sweeping insults and angry invective toward the Ron Paul camp with your above post.

    I was going to respond at length, point-by-point, taking you to task for your angry, uncivil and (yet again) ad hominem attack. But that would be a waste to time. Your seething anger toward Ron Paul clearly has no balm.

    admin: comments about the comments policy are not welcome

  18. Lou, Sydney, Australia
    January 3rd, 2008 at 01:05

    Jason Steck you would do well to properly research the CFR, its founding and influence if you care at all about the nation state of the America for it is their policy to merge you with the NAU on the road to the NWO. Maybe you’d like that, but be aware just what that will mean.

    I don’t know if the American Political Science Association or the International Studies Association also publish this as their goal.

    There’s no irony in media licenses being stripped from Mudoch if he is found by the FCC to be "Not acting in the public interest". Regardless of your personal preducies I suggest if you care at all about your country that you file a "FCC Public File" on the failure to meet the FCC "Equal time rule".
    here’s how"FCC Public File"
    "Not acting in the public interest"1) At the beginning of EACH email or FAX to an affiliate (actual broadcaster, not the network) ask that the comment be placed in their "FCC Public File." They are required to comply with your request.This "Public File" is reviewed by the FCC each time that station’s license is up for renewal. Not getting a license renewed means the station is worthless.Give your opinion that the broadcaster is "Not acting in the public interest" and give detailed reasoning.We can specifically start slamming each affiliate under the FCC "Equal Time Rule."http://www.museum.tv/...
    http://www.fcc.gov/eb...
    2) Comment to the FCC directly on media ownership:http://gullfoss2.fcc….Check next to "Media Ownership Further Notice of Proposed Rulemaking - Docket 06-121 "1-888-CALL-FCC (1-888-225-5322)
    1-866-418-0232 FAX: toll-freeFederal Communications Commission
    445 12th Street, SW
    Washington, DC 20554

    Time to wake up folks.

  19. Jason Steck
    January 3rd, 2008 at 01:13

    More translation of the conspiracy-speak:

    NAU: North American Union — purported to be the real purpose of the North American Free Trade Agreement, conspiracy theorists contend that it is even as we speak undermining American sovereignty and giving control over to Mexico.

    NWO: New World Order — purported to be the end-state sought by the conspiracies where the United States has no sovereignty over its own territory and is instead occupied and controlled by some other powers, variously the United Nations or the Bilderbergs. Where these entities will obtain armies sufficient to take over and control the United States is, of course, left unexplained.

    The idea that the CFR openly states its intention to force the United States to merge with the NAU and/or the NWO is a bit strange since the CFR was founded long before either NAFTA’s creation or the entry of the “new world order” into post-Cold War rhetoric. I suppose the aliens were involved, what with their time-travel technology and all that.

    Care to tell us about Da Jews, Lou? Or did you already do that with the “founding and influence” implications about the CFR?

    I also remain intrigued about how those who supposedly detest government power want to use the FCC to manage and control political debate in "the public interest". LOL

    (P.S. Lou, the FCC and the “public interest” standard is based on the claim that the broadcast spectrum is too narrow to allow any and all entrants and therefore the government is needed to regulate access in the “public interest”. Since FoxNews is a cable channel, it lies outside of the “public interest” standard AND its underlying rationale. Media ownership rules also do not apply to cable programming. I suggest YOU get educated before telling me to. :) )

  20. Tully
    January 3rd, 2008 at 02:22

    You’re not fooling ME, Jason. I can tell you’re just trying to obscure your true Illuminati agenda!

  21. Alan
    January 3rd, 2008 at 02:24

    Jason,

    Thanks for a futher heaping helping of contempt.  It is clear that you are not very willing, or able, to engage in serious debate and exchange, but would rather broadside those with whom you disagree with ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments, and sweeping and insulting generalizations.  I have found it useful and intellectually worthwhile to visit the PoliGazette site, but your nasty and demeaning attacks towards me and others disincline me from visiting much more. 

  22. Jason Steck
    January 3rd, 2008 at 05:06

    Alan, That may seem clear to YOU, but what seems clear to ME is that Paul supporters perceive ANY disagreement or criticism as an "attack" and use that as an excuse to refuse to respond to it. Unlike where you explicitly attacked my personal integrity for having disagreed with Paul in a way you don’t like, I have not once attacked you personally. All I have done is criticized and condemned Paul and his movement — no matter how many times you repeat the false charge, that is NOT the same as attacking you or anyone else personally.

    Anyway, evasion is clearly your right. Unlike you, I won’t try to question your honesty or integrity for your embrace of what is clearly a strategic choice to claim "attack" as a convenient excuse to avoid defending the many indefensible positions of the Ron Paul campaign and the many indefensible behaviors of its legions of acolytes repeatedly Google-ing his name in their effort to be instantly on the spot to highlight any positive mention of his name and flame any negative one.

    As for your threat to abandon the site, that is also your option to do so. If the dissent, however angry or objectionable, of ONE PERSON is sufficient to "disincline" you from defending Paul’s "movement" in detail or even to remain present, then that does not say much for the strength of your political position.

    Part of being a serious political "movement" is having the capacity to deal with dissent — even vitriolic dissent — with more than mere complaining or repetition of empty talking points. The Paul supporters are thus far failing the test of dealing with disagreement rather badly.

    I’m not claiming that I don’t have “contempt” for the Paul issue slate or the behavior of his “movement”. I am saying that “contempt” for the issue positions and the movement does NOT equate to ad hominum attack against each of its individual members any more than the Paul supporters often-expressed contempt about “neocons” (about which I have not once seen you object, Alan) constitutes a personal attack on any individual neoconservative who might happen to wander through.

  23. bleepyou
    January 3rd, 2008 at 05:42

    I am glad that some people are finally seeing the hidden agenda of this network. This is not a network news, this another puppet of the people in power to manipulate people. People in power get together with the media and the evangelists to come up with a propaganda agenda to be able to manipulate people. Democrats and Republican they are all the same. Ron Paul is the only one that can save this country and the only honest man running with a record in the congress to back him up.
    Vote Ron Paul 08!!

  24. bill austin
    January 3rd, 2008 at 23:20

    admin: try expressing your support without accusing everyone else of being on illegal drugs — that kind of snark can actually hurt real people’s lives

  25. Julius Scissor
    January 5th, 2008 at 17:17

    Jason, the modern New World Order was organized in Britain by a bunch of loonies who read too many long poems without appreciating anything between the lines nor the responsibility that went with the message. Your focus on the Jews is comical.

  26. Jason Steck
    January 5th, 2008 at 18:17

    Its not MY focus, Julius.  I’m not the one spewing out conspiracy theories about the Federal Reserve, the CFR, and the Bilderbergs.  When you look into their history, ALL of those conspiracy theories arise out of a broader discourse about "Jews".

  27. Kevin, California
    January 6th, 2008 at 20:44

    Does Fox organization ban Ron P. with a hidden purpose? we don’t know, but when Fox decided that including Ron in the debate is a waste of time is the biggest insult to hundreds of thousand or maybe even millions of people out there including students, poor individuals who don’t think a waste of money when they donate and provide support to Ron. Civil right organizations, congressmen/women, and senators in both parties should now raise their voices to protest Fox if they value our democracy and see the relevance in this. What does Fox think of themselves, a media organization to reflect the will of people out there or a powerhouse with hidden purposes?. I want people across the country step back and think…. You don’t have to watch Fox news or movies b/c you still have other choices. You could have called your representatives in your district to force them to reflect your voice… instead of being angry doing nothing. To me, it’s a biggest violation of our civil right from a media organization. I myself don’t support Ron, but I’m angry when seeing a media organization violate other people’s opinion. Whoever in Fox made a such decision should be criticized more and more, or even fired. People should react more fiercely and stronger to keep all media in track, remind them of their proper role in promoting our democracy Kevin

  28. my2cents
    January 8th, 2008 at 23:51

    Fox is the best source of TV News. Are they perfect, do I agree with everything all the time Nooooo. But they are still the best and do a great service to the people. Hannity Clone ? Yes Sir I agree with most of the things he says. He’s in his right mind. Get your garbage mouth on the set with him and debate. He will cut through your twisted B.S. with ease.

  29. Tom
    January 27th, 2008 at 18:20
    #29
  30. Big Tits Asian Boobs Lactating Tits
    February 5th, 2008 at 21:31
    #30
  31. Nicole Linkletter Pictures
    March 7th, 2008 at 22:42
    #31
Comment pages
Comments are closed.