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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Eric...&lt;/strong&gt;

Man i love reading your blog, interesting posts !...</description>
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<p>Man i love reading your blog, interesting posts !&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not predicting Armageddon or anything
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Well, that places you above at least one commenter on this thread, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m not predicting Armageddon or anything
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<p>Well, that places you above at least one commenter on this thread, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s probably because you don’t understand the difference between politics on a state and on a federal level.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I do, and so does Obama.  I think Obama&#039;s state level experience is valuable.  I think too often the Federal government tramples on states&#039; rights. 
 
&lt;blockquote&gt; She hasn’t been a leader in the Senate? Hm.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, she hasn&#039;t.  I don&#039;t recall any major issues that she has lead the way on.  Your lack of specificity is telling.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I repeat: 10 years ago people would have laughed their butts off if someone like Obama said he wanted to become president.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Lincoln had a similar level of experience.  What had George W. Bush done besides win a couple elections?  His foreign policy experience was something on the order of nada.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Romney has experience: both in business life and as a Governor. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Experience that he seems to regret, since he&#039;s running as fast as he can away from his record.

&lt;blockquote&gt;[Obama] hasn’t accomplished anything in all his life, yet you seem to want him to become president.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
He was elected to the Illinois Senate, the U.S. Senate.  He&#039;s gone to Columbia and Harvard.  He was a lecturer on constitutional law in at the U. of Chicago.  That&#039;s a hell of a lot more than most people will accomplish in their lives, and that&#039;s just the tip of the iceberg.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Having experience doesn’t per definition mean that one will be a great president indeed, but that’s doesn’t automatically mean that one doesn’t need it. See? Can you understand that argument?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I understand the argument, and it makes sense in a vacuum.  If you had to choose between Candidate A w/ 10 experience points vs. Candidate B w/ 12 experience points, how could you not pick Candidate B?  But there are other factors at play here.  Policy positions, corruptibility, willingness to use questionable political tactics, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That’s probably because you don’t understand the difference between politics on a state and on a federal level.
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<p>I do, and so does Obama.  I think Obama&#8217;s state level experience is valuable.  I think too often the Federal government tramples on states&#8217; rights. </p>
<blockquote><p> She hasn’t been a leader in the Senate? Hm.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, she hasn&#8217;t.  I don&#8217;t recall any major issues that she has lead the way on.  Your lack of specificity is telling.</p>
<blockquote><p>I repeat: 10 years ago people would have laughed their butts off if someone like Obama said he wanted to become president.
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<p>Lincoln had a similar level of experience.  What had George W. Bush done besides win a couple elections?  His foreign policy experience was something on the order of nada.</p>
<blockquote><p>Romney has experience: both in business life and as a Governor.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Experience that he seems to regret, since he&#8217;s running as fast as he can away from his record.</p>
<blockquote><p>[Obama] hasn’t accomplished anything in all his life, yet you seem to want him to become president.
</p></blockquote>
<p>He was elected to the Illinois Senate, the U.S. Senate.  He&#8217;s gone to Columbia and Harvard.  He was a lecturer on constitutional law in at the U. of Chicago.  That&#8217;s a hell of a lot more than most people will accomplish in their lives, and that&#8217;s just the tip of the iceberg.</p>
<blockquote><p>Having experience doesn’t per definition mean that one will be a great president indeed, but that’s doesn’t automatically mean that one doesn’t need it. See? Can you understand that argument?
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<p>I understand the argument, and it makes sense in a vacuum.  If you had to choose between Candidate A w/ 10 experience points vs. Candidate B w/ 12 experience points, how could you not pick Candidate B?  But there are other factors at play here.  Policy positions, corruptibility, willingness to use questionable political tactics, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/01/07/obama-double-digit-lead-in-new-hampshire/comment-page-1/#comment-15541</link>
		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t completely agree with that. Some people have the wisdom to pull advice from a broad variety of sources with varied opinions, and then to ask the right questions in order to decide whose advice is best (to be able to play devil&#039;s advocate in the face of any advice, so that he/she can discover whether or not the advice holds up to tough scrutiny, and to give equal weight to varied opinions instead of getting locked into one course and then justifying it as you go along.)

Experience tends to sharpen that wisdom, but some people do innately possess more of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t completely agree with that. Some people have the wisdom to pull advice from a broad variety of sources with varied opinions, and then to ask the right questions in order to decide whose advice is best (to be able to play devil&#8217;s advocate in the face of any advice, so that he/she can discover whether or not the advice holds up to tough scrutiny, and to give equal weight to varied opinions instead of getting locked into one course and then justifying it as you go along.)</p>
<p>Experience tends to sharpen that wisdom, but some people do innately possess more of it.</p>
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		<title>By: abrisaham</title>
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		<dc:creator>abrisaham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end experience plays a huge role.  Because a president can surround themselves with the greatest and wisest minds and advisors.  But inevitably half will say do this and half will say do that.

The decision is the Presidents.  The buck stops there.  Who to follow.  With no experience it makes that decision all the more tougher to follow.

This can be said of Jimmy Carter and George Bush.  They both surrounded themselves with pretty smart guys and gals.  Then proceeded to make one bad decision after another because they had no experience to deal with world altering decisions. 

Obama camp constantly downplay his experience in favor of widom.  Bull****!  There is not such thing as wisdom without experience.  Period.  It is experience that makes us wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end experience plays a huge role.  Because a president can surround themselves with the greatest and wisest minds and advisors.  But inevitably half will say do this and half will say do that.</p>
<p>The decision is the Presidents.  The buck stops there.  Who to follow.  With no experience it makes that decision all the more tougher to follow.</p>
<p>This can be said of Jimmy Carter and George Bush.  They both surrounded themselves with pretty smart guys and gals.  Then proceeded to make one bad decision after another because they had no experience to deal with world altering decisions. </p>
<p>Obama camp constantly downplay his experience in favor of widom.  Bull****!  There is not such thing as wisdom without experience.  Period.  It is experience that makes us wise.</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a related and funny note, Tully had a great post up at Stubborn Facts- a screenshot from WaPo listing Bill Clinton as one of the participants in the NH Democratic debates. Makes you wonder whether anyone actually likes Hillary at all or is her entire base simply the people who want Bill to have a third term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related and funny note, Tully had a great post up at Stubborn Facts- a screenshot from WaPo listing Bill Clinton as one of the participants in the NH Democratic debates. Makes you wonder whether anyone actually likes Hillary at all or is her entire base simply the people who want Bill to have a third term?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is his experience in the state senate unimportant?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&#039;s probably because you don&#039;t understand the difference between politics on a state and on a federal level.
&lt;blockquote&gt;As for Clinton’s experience in the U.S. Senate, I don’t recall her being the leader on any major issues.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Pf! Really? You&#039;re sure about that? She hasn&#039;t been a leader in the Senate? Hm.
&lt;blockquote&gt; Anyways, my point is that the difference between Clinton and Obama’s experience is negligible.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;No it&#039;s not, that&#039;s what Obama supporters like to argue but it&#039;s really not. 

I repeat: 10 years ago people would have laughed their butts off if someone like Obama said he wanted to become president. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;If you really want to support candidates with a broad range of experience, I suggest you look toward McCain and Richardson.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;McCain lost my respect last weekend and Richardson proved to have lost his sanity with his remarks about Musharraf recently. 

Romney has experience: both in business life and as a Governor. Experience someone like Obama lacks. He hasn&#039;t accomplished anything in all his life, yet you seem to want him to become president. Well, you&#039;ve got the right to do so, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s wise to let someone like that become the most powerful person on earth.

He would be a tremendous candidate in 2012 or 2016, but in 2008?&lt;em&gt;
&lt;/em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;”Being experienced is not enough. The question is, what lessons do you learn from your experience? ‘Nobody had a better track record in experience than Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, but they had bad judgment…&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Yeah, I know the talking points. I&#039;m not quite receptive to them though. He turns the argument around and only people who don&#039;t quite understand the rules of logic fall for it. 

Having experience doesn&#039;t per definition mean that one will be a great president indeed, but that&#039;s doesn&#039;t automatically mean that one doesn&#039;t need it. See? Can you understand that argument?
&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why is his experience in the state senate unimportant?
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<p>That&#8217;s probably because you don&#8217;t understand the difference between politics on a state and on a federal level.</p>
<blockquote><p>As for Clinton’s experience in the U.S. Senate, I don’t recall her being the leader on any major issues.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Pf! Really? You&#8217;re sure about that? She hasn&#8217;t been a leader in the Senate? Hm.</p>
<blockquote><p> Anyways, my point is that the difference between Clinton and Obama’s experience is negligible.
</p></blockquote>
<p>No it&#8217;s not, that&#8217;s what Obama supporters like to argue but it&#8217;s really not. </p>
<p>I repeat: 10 years ago people would have laughed their butts off if someone like Obama said he wanted to become president. </p>
<blockquote><p>If you really want to support candidates with a broad range of experience, I suggest you look toward McCain and Richardson.
</p></blockquote>
<p>McCain lost my respect last weekend and Richardson proved to have lost his sanity with his remarks about Musharraf recently. </p>
<p>Romney has experience: both in business life and as a Governor. Experience someone like Obama lacks. He hasn&#8217;t accomplished anything in all his life, yet you seem to want him to become president. Well, you&#8217;ve got the right to do so, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wise to let someone like that become the most powerful person on earth.</p>
<p>He would be a tremendous candidate in 2012 or 2016, but in 2008?<em><br />
</em><br />
<blockquote><em>”Being experienced is not enough. The question is, what lessons do you learn from your experience? ‘Nobody had a better track record in experience than Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, but they had bad judgment…&quot;</em>
</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Yeah, I know the talking points. I&#8217;m not quite receptive to them though. He turns the argument around and only people who don&#8217;t quite understand the rules of logic fall for it. </p>
<p>Having experience doesn&#8217;t per definition mean that one will be a great president indeed, but that&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t automatically mean that one doesn&#8217;t need it. See? Can you understand that argument?<br />
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the problem I have with the &quot;she&#039;ll govern like her husband did&quot; is different than what many critics are saying. I don&#039;t think Bill Clinton was bad overall but he certainly wasn&#039;t conservative enough for me- and when I think about what influence Hillary had, she was generally the pull to the left while Bill was more of a centrist. On top of that, Bill became much more centrist only after he had a strong Republican Congress pulling him in that direction- he was smart enough to realize that he had to coapt more conservative issues in order to get anything done.

With the current animosity toward the GOP in general, I see little chance that the GOP will retake either house of Congress which means we have to consider what Hillary will govern like with a same party congress, not an opposition one. So given that she always seemed philosophically further left than Bill anyway, and he was too liberal IMO when he had the longer leash of a friendly Congress, I do have concerns about her. I&#039;m not predicting Armageddon or anything, but I do think it&#039;s wrong to assume she&#039;ll be a harmless centrist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the problem I have with the &quot;she&#8217;ll govern like her husband did&quot; is different than what many critics are saying. I don&#8217;t think Bill Clinton was bad overall but he certainly wasn&#8217;t conservative enough for me- and when I think about what influence Hillary had, she was generally the pull to the left while Bill was more of a centrist. On top of that, Bill became much more centrist only after he had a strong Republican Congress pulling him in that direction- he was smart enough to realize that he had to coapt more conservative issues in order to get anything done.</p>
<p>With the current animosity toward the GOP in general, I see little chance that the GOP will retake either house of Congress which means we have to consider what Hillary will govern like with a same party congress, not an opposition one. So given that she always seemed philosophically further left than Bill anyway, and he was too liberal IMO when he had the longer leash of a friendly Congress, I do have concerns about her. I&#8217;m not predicting Armageddon or anything, but I do think it&#8217;s wrong to assume she&#8217;ll be a harmless centrist.</p>
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		<title>By: Interested</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interested</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
But Interested, the ones who now say that Clinton doesn’t have any real experience were the same ones who were complaining that she was Bill Clinton’s second Vice President back in the 1990s. I’ve read a lot of accounts about what she did back then and it’s perfectly clear that she was quite deeply involved in policy making and one of Bill’s most trusted and important advisers. I can’t see how anyone can deny that.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s an unelected - and unaccountable position.  Which is why I compared it to a Cabinate level position. State Senate - while just limited to the State itself is one that the voters hold the candidate accountable via their vote.

You are right on the US Senate though.

Doesn&#039;t it bother you that she seemingly can&#039;t stand up to pressure?  Every time it gets a little rough for her ole Bill has to step in.  What&#039;s going to happen if a foreign country pressures her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
But Interested, the ones who now say that Clinton doesn’t have any real experience were the same ones who were complaining that she was Bill Clinton’s second Vice President back in the 1990s. I’ve read a lot of accounts about what she did back then and it’s perfectly clear that she was quite deeply involved in policy making and one of Bill’s most trusted and important advisers. I can’t see how anyone can deny that.
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<p>It&#8217;s an unelected &#8211; and unaccountable position.  Which is why I compared it to a Cabinate level position. State Senate &#8211; while just limited to the State itself is one that the voters hold the candidate accountable via their vote.</p>
<p>You are right on the US Senate though.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t it bother you that she seemingly can&#8217;t stand up to pressure?  Every time it gets a little rough for her ole Bill has to step in.  What&#8217;s going to happen if a foreign country pressures her?</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisWWW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWWW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is his experience in the state senate unimportant?  As for Clinton&#039;s experience in the U.S. Senate, I don&#039;t recall her being the leader on any major issues.  She certainly hasn&#039;t been an agent of change there.  To be fair, both of them have been tip-toeing around taking controversial stances in the run-up to their campaigns.  Anyways, my point is that the difference between Clinton and Obama&#039;s experience is negligible.

If you really want to support candidates with a broad range of experience, I suggest you look toward McCain and Richardson.
 
Here&#039;s a great quote from Obama on the subject: 
&lt;em&gt;&#039;&#039;Being experienced is not enough. The question is, what lessons do you learn from your experience? &#039;Nobody had a better track record in experience than Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, but they had bad judgment...&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is his experience in the state senate unimportant?  As for Clinton&#8217;s experience in the U.S. Senate, I don&#8217;t recall her being the leader on any major issues.  She certainly hasn&#8217;t been an agent of change there.  To be fair, both of them have been tip-toeing around taking controversial stances in the run-up to their campaigns.  Anyways, my point is that the difference between Clinton and Obama&#8217;s experience is negligible.</p>
<p>If you really want to support candidates with a broad range of experience, I suggest you look toward McCain and Richardson.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a great quote from Obama on the subject:<br />
<em>&#8221;Being experienced is not enough. The question is, what lessons do you learn from your experience? &#8216;Nobody had a better track record in experience than Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, but they had bad judgment&#8230;&quot;</em></p>
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