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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/02/05/mccain-and-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-23591</link>
		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tap: The specific complaint here about Romney is that he once held certain positions, and criticized the opposing positions. Now he says he holds the positions he once criticized, often with no explanation of how he reconciles his new positions with his own past criticism (case in point: on immigration, he praised McCain&#039;s and Bush&#039;s approach and said it wasn&#039;t amnesty, and he talked about how it was impossible to deport 12 million people so we had to figure out some other way to handle the illegals who are already here; now he says that he&#039;ll deport the 12 million, and gives no explanation as to why just a short while ago he thought that was impossible but now he thinks it&#039;s possible and essential to do this.)

So now he claims he holds these new positions which are at odds with past statements he&#039;s made, with no explanation of how his new positions rise above HIS OWN CRITICISM of those positions. And on top of that, right from the start in this campaign he chose to run negative ads against his opponents for holding some of the same positions that he used to hold himself and defend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tap: The specific complaint here about Romney is that he once held certain positions, and criticized the opposing positions. Now he says he holds the positions he once criticized, often with no explanation of how he reconciles his new positions with his own past criticism (case in point: on immigration, he praised McCain&#8217;s and Bush&#8217;s approach and said it wasn&#8217;t amnesty, and he talked about how it was impossible to deport 12 million people so we had to figure out some other way to handle the illegals who are already here; now he says that he&#8217;ll deport the 12 million, and gives no explanation as to why just a short while ago he thought that was impossible but now he thinks it&#8217;s possible and essential to do this.)</p>
<p>So now he claims he holds these new positions which are at odds with past statements he&#8217;s made, with no explanation of how his new positions rise above HIS OWN CRITICISM of those positions. And on top of that, right from the start in this campaign he chose to run negative ads against his opponents for holding some of the same positions that he used to hold himself and defend.</p>
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		<title>By: Tap</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/02/05/mccain-and-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-23536</link>
		<dc:creator>Tap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, all the DC insider types PLUS Huckabee don&#039;t like Romney...still a plus in my book.

As far as the stated reasons go...this still doesn&#039;t impress me...like I said, I can quote you changes of positions on all of &#039;em...and neither McCain nor Huckabee can be said to have refrained from lying in ads. 

Are you just posing as a Romney detractor,  secretly trying to drum up support for him?  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, all the DC insider types PLUS Huckabee don&#8217;t like Romney&#8230;still a plus in my book.</p>
<p>As far as the stated reasons go&#8230;this still doesn&#8217;t impress me&#8230;like I said, I can quote you changes of positions on all of &#8216;em&#8230;and neither McCain nor Huckabee can be said to have refrained from lying in ads. </p>
<p>Are you just posing as a Romney detractor,  secretly trying to drum up support for him?  :D</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/02/05/mccain-and-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-23530</link>
		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tap,

Right, that&#039;s what Romney likes to say, but Huckabee is no more a &quot;DC Washington insider type&quot; than Romney is. I guess you&#039;re going to talk about how Huckabee wants to be VP , but its clear that he dislikes Romney regardless. The plain fact is they hate Romney not because he&#039;s using his money, but that he&#039;s using his money to run dishonest ads, claiming everyone in the race except  him is a liberal and no different than Hillary Clinton, while he supported the same policies as governor. McCain is right when he says Romney is the one dividing the party.

To repeat:
&quot;What Romney has done,&quot; says a Huckabee adviser, &quot;he’s attacked people for positions he once held. That annoys people. And he uses his own money to do it, which rubs it in.&quot; He’s gone after McCain on campaign finance reform (which he once supported), Huckabee on tax increases (Huckabee countered that Romney’s raised &quot;fees&quot; amounted to the same thing), and nearly all the candidates on immigration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tap,</p>
<p>Right, that&#8217;s what Romney likes to say, but Huckabee is no more a &quot;DC Washington insider type&quot; than Romney is. I guess you&#8217;re going to talk about how Huckabee wants to be VP , but its clear that he dislikes Romney regardless. The plain fact is they hate Romney not because he&#8217;s using his money, but that he&#8217;s using his money to run dishonest ads, claiming everyone in the race except  him is a liberal and no different than Hillary Clinton, while he supported the same policies as governor. McCain is right when he says Romney is the one dividing the party.</p>
<p>To repeat:<br />
&quot;What Romney has done,&quot; says a Huckabee adviser, &quot;he’s attacked people for positions he once held. That annoys people. And he uses his own money to do it, which rubs it in.&quot; He’s gone after McCain on campaign finance reform (which he once supported), Huckabee on tax increases (Huckabee countered that Romney’s raised &quot;fees&quot; amounted to the same thing), and nearly all the candidates on immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: Tap</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/02/05/mccain-and-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-23485</link>
		<dc:creator>Tap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redfish, 
Other candidates, their staffers and other D.C.-types professing a dislike for Romney does nothing but increase his stature in my eyes.

Using his own money rather than the money of others is no fault as far as I&#039;m concerned either - McCain, ever worried about the influence of money on politics should certainly approve. As far as changing positions go - McCain ain&#039;t so hot on that either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redfish,<br />
Other candidates, their staffers and other D.C.-types professing a dislike for Romney does nothing but increase his stature in my eyes.</p>
<p>Using his own money rather than the money of others is no fault as far as I&#8217;m concerned either &#8211; McCain, ever worried about the influence of money on politics should certainly approve. As far as changing positions go &#8211; McCain ain&#8217;t so hot on that either.</p>
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		<title>By: casualobserver</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/02/05/mccain-and-conservatives/comment-page-1/#comment-23450</link>
		<dc:creator>casualobserver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose if you are Limbaugh or Hewitt, you can claim some justification for your campaign whilst your candidate is still in the mix. At this juncture, then, it is ultimately more bad sportsmanship than actually throwing the game. 

After all, accusing McCain of not being conservative enough isn&#039;t exactly giving fodder to Obama or Clinton down the road.

There will come a time though......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose if you are Limbaugh or Hewitt, you can claim some justification for your campaign whilst your candidate is still in the mix. At this juncture, then, it is ultimately more bad sportsmanship than actually throwing the game. </p>
<p>After all, accusing McCain of not being conservative enough isn&#8217;t exactly giving fodder to Obama or Clinton down the road.</p>
<p>There will come a time though&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: redfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>redfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new TIME magazine article &quot;The &#039;I Hate Romney&#039;&quot; Club
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1709507-1,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1709507-1,00.html&lt;/a&gt;

an excerpt

To be sure, the candidates&#039; staffs do seem to have bonded in their dislike of Romney. &quot;It was very common for e-mails to be flying around between the Thompson, McCain and Giuliani campaigns,&quot; says the former Thompson staffer, &quot;Saying, &#039;No matter what happens with us, we all need to make sure it&#039;s not &lt;em&gt;him.&lt;/em&gt;&#039;&quot; The staffer says that campaigns would share opposition research on Romney and offer each other tips on how best to undermine him: &quot;Like, &#039;Hey, I saw you hit Mitt on immigration — have you thought about going after him on this issue?&quot; In some cases, the attitude even extends to the top of the campaigns. The night of the Iowa caucuses, after getting a congratulatory call from McCain, Huckabee told the candidate, according to aides: &quot;Now it&#039;s your turn to kick his butt.&quot; 

Before and after debates, rival campaign staffers note, Romney tends not to mingle with the other candidates — most of whom know each other professionally — preferring instead to keep close to his family and staff. And those same staffers delight in trading stories about Romney&#039;s odd behavior. The day before the Republican primary, Huckabee mocked Romney for ordering lunch at a Kentucky Fried Chicken, then peeling off the fried coating and eating it with a knife and fork. Presented with a golf club, Huckabee said he wouldn&#039;t be very good at the game: &quot;I&#039;d be like Mitt Romney eating fried chicken.&quot; 
But such jibes mask more substantive complaints that many of the candidates have about Romney. &quot;What Romney has done,&quot; says a Huckabee adviser, &quot;he&#039;s attacked people for positions he once held. That annoys people. And he uses his own money to do it, which rubs it in.&quot; He&#039;s gone after McCain on campaign finance reform (which he once supported), Huckabee on tax increases (Huckabee countered that Romney&#039;s raised &quot;fees&quot; amounted to the same thing), and nearly all the candidates on immigration. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new TIME magazine article &quot;The &#8216;I Hate Romney&#8217;&quot; Club<br />
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1709507-1,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1709507-1,00.html</a></p>
<p>an excerpt</p>
<p>To be sure, the candidates&#8217; staffs do seem to have bonded in their dislike of Romney. &quot;It was very common for e-mails to be flying around between the Thompson, McCain and Giuliani campaigns,&quot; says the former Thompson staffer, &quot;Saying, &#8216;No matter what happens with us, we all need to make sure it&#8217;s not <em>him.</em>&#8216;&quot; The staffer says that campaigns would share opposition research on Romney and offer each other tips on how best to undermine him: &quot;Like, &#8216;Hey, I saw you hit Mitt on immigration — have you thought about going after him on this issue?&quot; In some cases, the attitude even extends to the top of the campaigns. The night of the Iowa caucuses, after getting a congratulatory call from McCain, Huckabee told the candidate, according to aides: &quot;Now it&#8217;s your turn to kick his butt.&quot; </p>
<p>Before and after debates, rival campaign staffers note, Romney tends not to mingle with the other candidates — most of whom know each other professionally — preferring instead to keep close to his family and staff. And those same staffers delight in trading stories about Romney&#8217;s odd behavior. The day before the Republican primary, Huckabee mocked Romney for ordering lunch at a Kentucky Fried Chicken, then peeling off the fried coating and eating it with a knife and fork. Presented with a golf club, Huckabee said he wouldn&#8217;t be very good at the game: &quot;I&#8217;d be like Mitt Romney eating fried chicken.&quot;<br />
But such jibes mask more substantive complaints that many of the candidates have about Romney. &quot;What Romney has done,&quot; says a Huckabee adviser, &quot;he&#8217;s attacked people for positions he once held. That annoys people. And he uses his own money to do it, which rubs it in.&quot; He&#8217;s gone after McCain on campaign finance reform (which he once supported), Huckabee on tax increases (Huckabee countered that Romney&#8217;s raised &quot;fees&quot; amounted to the same thing), and nearly all the candidates on immigration.</p>
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		<title>By: The Moderate Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael if the GOP losses in November it isn&#039;t going to be because they didn&#039;t choose Flippy Mitt. My guess it will be because of the war. 

I also love how no one mentions that the great GWB was for those immigration reform. No instead McCain gets bashed for it and on top of that being against oh great one&#039;s tax cuts.

The far right talking heads need just shut up for once. I think they have done more damage to the GOP than McCain ever could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael if the GOP losses in November it isn&#8217;t going to be because they didn&#8217;t choose Flippy Mitt. My guess it will be because of the war. </p>
<p>I also love how no one mentions that the great GWB was for those immigration reform. No instead McCain gets bashed for it and on top of that being against oh great one&#8217;s tax cuts.</p>
<p>The far right talking heads need just shut up for once. I think they have done more damage to the GOP than McCain ever could.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there are more of the old Republicans out there than you realize.

Maybe some of them hang around here.

Maybe those people don&#039;t deserve to be marginalized or tainted by the perceived policy failures of the Bush administration.

John Cole makes the error of assuming that since social conservatives and so-called &quot;neocons&quot; (really liberals) have been dominant recently in the Republican party that no others even exist.  His is a fundamentally dumb argument.  It is also insulting to those he ignores in his zeal to bash Republicans generally.  That was my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there are more of the old Republicans out there than you realize.</p>
<p>Maybe some of them hang around here.</p>
<p>Maybe those people don&#8217;t deserve to be marginalized or tainted by the perceived policy failures of the Bush administration.</p>
<p>John Cole makes the error of assuming that since social conservatives and so-called &quot;neocons&quot; (really liberals) have been dominant recently in the Republican party that no others even exist.  His is a fundamentally dumb argument.  It is also insulting to those he ignores in his zeal to bash Republicans generally.  That was my point.</p>
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		<title>By: sashal</title>
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		<dc:creator>sashal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason, it is John Cole(not the Juan,the Arabist).
And also check the linked article.
Family, faith , fiscal.... are important to everybody, those are traditional principles of the majority of human beings.

Btw, I miss republicans , Jason, just like this guy:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2004/12/i-miss-republicans.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2004/12/i-miss-republicans.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, it is John Cole(not the Juan,the Arabist).<br />
And also check the linked article.<br />
Family, faith , fiscal&#8230;. are important to everybody, those are traditional principles of the majority of human beings.</p>
<p>Btw, I miss republicans , Jason, just like this guy:<br />
<a href="http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2004/12/i-miss-republicans.html" rel="nofollow">http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2004/12/i-miss-republicans.html</a></p>
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