European Ignorance When It Comes To Turkey – AKP Closure

March 31st, 2008 By: Michael van der Galien | Tags:

I’m happy to be able to publish yet another guest post, written by reader Kemal. The guest post published today is, basically, a follow-up to the post he wrote which was published last week. In today’s post Kemal looks at how the EU has responded to the attempt of a Turkey’s highest prosecutor to shut down the Justice and Development Party (AK Parti) of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The main point: EU representatives have no idea what they’re talking about.

Before publishing Kemal’s post, let me say that I agree completely with him and that it has to be pointed out that having a court decide that the party which controls the government is acting in breach with the Constitution is not undemocratic as such. At least, not if one believes that liberal democracy means and should mean that there are limits to what the government can do, despite what the majority thinks. In liberal democracies, we protect minorities against the majority. Let us never forget that. O, and the majority of Turks hasn’t voted for the AKP. A plurality, yes, the majority, no.

Lastly: the court has accepted the case. This means that the AK Parti could be closed down in a couple of months time, perhaps one year.

Here’s Kemal

Times are strange indeed when one’s judiciary is soundly criticized by the E.U. for contemplating an indictment filed by a prosecutor, while it is congratulated for its democratic processes by a liberal Russian politician. Exactly what is it that the E.U. is hoping to accomplish when it comes to the Republic of Turkey?

A draft report to be tabled before the European Parliament claims Turkey’s judiciary lacks independence. The report was drafted by Christian Democrat MEP Ria Oomen-Ruijten, the Turkey rapporteur of the European Parliament. Oomen-Ruijten has announced she is “totally opposed” to the possible closure of both Turkey’s ruling Justice and Development Party and the pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party by the courts. She believes that problems raised by these parties can be overcome by making rapid reforms concerning the judiciary.

In addition, Joost Lagendijk, the co-chair of the Turkey- EU Joint Parliament Committee, believes the court cases represents interference by the judiciary in the political sphere. “We have to be very clear on this issue. There is an intervention by the judiciary into the political process in Turkey,” Lagendijk said. “The judiciary says the choice of the majority of Turks is wrong. This is not acceptable in any way.”

Rapid reforms to the judiciary? When did the Turkish judiciary proclaim that the choice of the majority of Turks is wrong? And, why is there so much hysteria and hyperbole from E.U. parliamentarians about a legal process that, by their comments, they clearly don’t seem to understand?

Someone must remind (or teach, as the case may be) these European representatives of “democracy” that in a true democracy the judiciary is the third branch of government and must remain independent. Threats to rapidly reform the judicial branch government in an effort to sway decisions pending before it are not only fraught with injustice, they are undemocratic. Attempts to sway judicial decisions are also often considered illegal and considered to corrupt the process.

Second, Turkey’s judiciary has made no pronouncement concerning “the choice of the majority of Turks.” Rather, the country’s top prosecutor has filed an indictment against the ruling party, charging it with violating Turkey’s Constitution and laid forth the evidence supporting his claims. The judiciary must now determine whether the prosecutor’s charge is worthy of investigation. That is all that has happened to date and brought the ire of these E.U. parliamentarians upon the Turkish judiciary’s head.

Since when has democracy dictated that a political party, those belonging to it, and its elected officials are entirely immune from the laws and Constitution governing the country over which they preside? Is this not really what these E.U. parliamentarians are implying? Are not the political parties of Europe, their members and elected officials in E.U. nations required to follow the rule of law? Don’t they need to uphold their country’s Constitution?

Perhaps E.U. parliamentarians should lend their assistance to the Bush administration in light of the plethora of lawsuits brought against it for detaining enemy combatants for years on end without due process of law, for eavesdropping on telephone conversations of its citizens without a warrant, and of course, there’s the criminal investigation in which prosecutors finally convicted Cheney aid Scooter Libby and the civil lawsuit Valerie Plame and her husband were “allowed” to bring against Bush, Cheney and other administration officials for revealing her identity while an undercover CIA operative. Perhaps these E.U. parliamentarians are too young or ill-informed to remember U.S. v. Nixon, but surely they remember that sitting President Clinton was deposed regarding some rather delicate issues that arose due to the sexual harassment lawsuit Paula Jones file and in the endless and relentless Whitewater criminal investigation. Clearly democracy in the U.S. is, and has been, under much greater threat and has much greater need for the rhetoric of Oomen-Ruijten and Lagendijk.

And what are we to make of this? According to the leader of Russia’s far-right party, the closure case filed against the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) is a sign of democracy in Turkey. “I could not imagine any country in the world that would sue the governing party,” said Vladimir Zhirinovsky, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party (Someone should send him a note about the abundance of past and present criminal and civil lawsuits against U.S. administrations.). “This is an understanding of democracy unique to Turkish people. I congratulate [them].”

While Zhirinovsky’s political credentials are suspect, his comment that the European Union will never accept Turkey as a member, even if Turkey fulfilled all necessary criteria, attributing the reason to Islam and his statement that “Turkey has been struggling to be an E.U. member for the last 40 years. Good luck, but they would not take Turkey. I think this is insulting for Turkey” is worth considering.

At some point, the E.U. will have to come to terms with its erratic and bizarre behavior during Turkey’s accession process, and Turkey will have to decide whether it wants to associate itself with a group that has displayed so much hypocrisy toward, and contempt for the intelligence of, its people.

Share and Enjoy:
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Technorati
  • SphereIt
  • NewsVine
  • TailRank
  • Reddit
  • StumbleUpon

This website uses IntenseDebate comments, but they are not currently loaded because either your browser doesn't support JavaScript, or they didn't load fast enough.

  1. Kel Oglan
    March 31st, 2008 at 16:53
    Reply | Quote | #1

    Issue here is NOT if AKP is above the law or not. In any democracy NO ONE is above the law. But are judges and lawyers above the law? Can lawyers act like LAW MAKERS? Can they ignore the will of the people? If you look at the case put against AKP you will see that the so-called evidence in the case is really "funny". News Paper headlines used as evidence!!! Also the timing of this case is suspect. AKP has been in power for 5 years or so and when Police starts investigating Mafia sytle establishment in Turkey’s establishment "They" open a case to close AKP.
    Turkish people are tired of "Establishment" looking down on them and AKP is "people’s answer" to establishment. Pools show that next ellection, if it was held today, AKP would have 55%-65% of the vote…

  2. Michael van der Galien
    March 31st, 2008 at 16:57
    Reply | Quote | #2

    Kel it’s not "funny" at all. The AK Parti is acting in breach with the constitution. You have courts to stop parties when they do so. That’s not "funny" nor silly. Nor is it "lawmaking." It’s a court doing what it’s supposed to do.

    For your information, courts don’t have to accept every bill parliament makes. In fact, courts can, in most liberal democracies, overrule the Parliament if Parliament acted, say, in breach with the country’s constitution or international treaties.

  3. Kel Oglan
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:02
    Reply | Quote | #3

    Dear Michael,

    Under normal circumstances I would agree with you. NO ONE is above the law. And if Law Makers make laws that are not consistant with the constitution they can be stoped by the courts…
    Do you remember 367 deal last year… How "funny" was that. Turkish courts are not inpartial. If you are saying "fair or not deal with it" yes Turkish people will deal with it…Next ellection.

  4. Kel Oglan
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:08
    Reply | Quote | #4

    o by the way…the way I use thw word "funny" does not mean funny Ha Ha but It is funny as it really smells "funny" :-)

  5. Michael van der Galien
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:09
    Reply | Quote | #5

    Turkish courts are not inpartial. If you are saying "fair or not deal with it" yes Turkish people will deal with it…Next ellection.
    They shouldn’t be impartial either. They should be pro-Constitution, which means pro-Secularism. That’s what the constitution demands.

    And… I know full well that the AK Parti is replacing judges with judges that are sympathetic towards it and interpret the Constitution in a way more convenient for Islamists.

    As for the next elections: I think so too. But one gets the impression the AK Parti won’t be able to participate in them.

  6. wj
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:18
    Reply | Quote | #6

    So, do the justices act to uphold Turkey’s Constitution?  Or to uphold their view of what Turkey should be?  (The former being their job.  The latter being the job of the legislature.)

    Perhaps we should wait until they have ruled on this case before jumping to any conclusions.  You know, see what evidence is submitted by both sides.  All that tedious legal stuff.  I haven’t seen the original statements from the folks in the EU, so I don’t know exactly what they are criticizing.  But they might want to do the same before pontificating, too.

  7. Kel Oglan
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:20
    Reply | Quote | #7

    Yes, you may be right that AKP may be closed by the next ellection but Turkish people have raised many great leaders in the past so Tayip Erdogan is not important. Unless of course if the courts can declare 16-20 million Turkish citizens will be put under arrest :-)
    And please do not take me wrong. I am for the Constitution.
    I just have an issue with unjust judges who can ignore the Constitution or listen to “dark” centers of power.
    As to “Secularism” I am all for it. As long as we are talking about the same thing.
    There are 3 types of Secularism in the world.
    1-Soviet style Secularism: seppearte religion and Government and then destroy religion.
    2-French style Secularism: seppearte religion and Government and then control religion.
    3-American style Secularism: seppearte religion and Government and protect religion from government.

    Turkish case is more like 1.75
    I like 3 what do you think?

  8. Nihat
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:27
    Reply | Quote | #8

    I appreciate Kemal & Michael’s perspective. Rather, I am on the same side with them re: laws, separation of powers and Turkey’s secular character. However, my impression of the indictment, which is admittedly cursory, is that the evidence laid out is weak as Kel Oglan suggests. The AKP personalities (some very high-ranking ones) suggested and/or condoned religious tests for various government functions. At the municipal level, such practice may very well be common practice by now (again my impression and fear). I mean, government/municipal employment opportunities and various contracts, etc., and how the awardees are determined. Tangible things like that. I wonder whether the indictment covers such issues.

    As for the popular support behind AKP, it is there for sure. But in principle (or legally), it means little as Kemal argues. And in practice, it may, sadly, point to popular disregard for true democracy. In fact, imo, it just does point to that. The bigger and badder the notion of state in people’s imagination, the nastier sh*t you end up swimming in. The AKP is a threat to Turkey’s future essentially because they are poised, with their questionable or yet-to-be seen and tested allegiances, to overtake the reins of a very powerful state. Not simply because they profess to be muslims and in politics at the same time. There is a lot of talk emanating from their mouthpieces regarding the virtues of Anglosaxon (British/American) version of secularism as opposed to positivist French version. But I am yet to hear an AKP guy or gal speaking of the Religious Affairs Directorate, and its being an anomaly that has to be terminated if their virtuous version comes to pass. The budget of this Directorate, if I am not mistaken, dwarves all other ministries (departments) of the government including defense ministry. What gives?

  9. Nihat
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:34
    Reply | Quote | #9

    Kel, separate religion and government, and protect each from the other.

  10. Kel Oglan
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:39

    There is a historical context we must consider. In 1950’s Turkish courts found the prime minister of Turkey guilty and gave death penalty. I read the case papers presented and I will give you an example from it. One of the things his party was accused of was some law they passed in the parliment. The court said it was like treason. OK lets say I accept this. One of the members of the parliment was out of country when this law was passed and he did not vote on it. The court found him guilt because “He would have voted yes”. So this is like today…a lot of “mind-reading” is going on in Turkey. Some people say “AKP will do this or that” so they are reading the minds of members of AKP.
    So AKP is guilty of “potentially” commiting a crime.
    Which one of us would like to be judged this way.

  11. Kel Oglan
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:43

    Dear Nihat,

    I like your suggestion of protection both from each other.
    I do not know if this is doable but I like it.
    Because religion in its essanse an Idea where government is an organization with lots of power. Religion’s power is its ability to effect hearts. Are there corrupt religious people? of course just like there are corrupt goverment people.

    I gues we must keep working at it.

  12. Kemal
    March 31st, 2008 at 17:57

    Just to clarify, the piece is primarily focused on the hypocrisy of the EU towards Turkey.

    The second message intended is that it is premature and arrogant to presume the Turkish judiciary will not follow the law.  The threshold level for evidence to accept an indictment are much much lower than the burden of proof required to establish a given verdict.

    This means that an indictment need not set forth all or the best evidence known to a prosecutor, just enough evidence to prove that there is cause to investigate further.

    What does that mean? 

    That means, once again, it is premature to pass judgment on the indictment and the quality of the evidence–because the public does not yet know what all of the evidence is.

    Last, in response to Kel, I appreciate and understand your concern.  Verdicts of conviction should not be based on flimsy or evidence lacking credibility.

    However, let’s not forget that Ilhan Selcuk was just detained for being a "Thought Leader" of some vague "plot" among 50 or so people who somehow, despite their numbers, managed to keep their conspiracy a very deep dark secret.

    And, has anyone noticed that the entire Ergenekon scenario described is eerily similar to what is known as the "left-behinds" of Gladio, which was a secret and authorized NATO operation?— that as far as I know, ceased operating after the iron curtain fell.

    To use your words Kel, the Ergenekon accusations smell really bad, their timing is bad, the manner in which the government is "executing" its investigation is exaggerated, the story is unoriginal, the people arrested are, on an intellectual level, the most dangerous opponents of religious fundamentalism—it smells really really bad.

  13. Nihat
    March 31st, 2008 at 18:00

    Kel kardes, sure, it’s doable. That’s what they do in the USA.

  14. Kel Oglan
    March 31st, 2008 at 18:08

    Dear Kemal,

    I agree that Ergenekon is more like “spoiled Gladio” What ever its origins may heve been it became Mafia like organization.

    You are right that AKP case is not over yet but we have seen the evidence in the indictment. (some 167 pages I think)
    BUT
    Ergenekon indictment is not out yet so “It is too early” to talk about Ilhan Selcuk. Once I see the indictment I may agree or disagree with you.
    I agree with you that Ilhan Secuk is an intellectual but I hope you will not call Veli Kucuk and Perincek intellectuals :-)

  15. Tancu Ciller
    March 31st, 2008 at 23:01

    Unbelievable. How do you dear to say Lagendijk is ignorant of Turkey. You don’t know anything about Turkey, if you don’t know who Lagendijk is and how much he knows. No wonder you quote politicians like Zhirinovsky who wants to broaden Russia’s borders again and told America that their minister should get laid.

  16. Kemal
    April 1st, 2008 at 02:05

    "How do you dear to say Lagendijk is ignorant of Turkey."

    Read the article again, carefully.  It does not say that.  It says that neither of the EU officials quoted understand the legal process that is not being undertaken.

    Lagendijk erroneously said the Turkish judiciary has decided the choice of the majority of Turks is wrong– the Turkish judiciary has said no such thing

    Instead, all the Turkish judges have indicated today by their vote is that there is sufficient evidence in the indictment to warrant an investigation.

    Lagendijk incorrectly presumes there has been a verdict against the AKP.  Can you understand the difference? 

    "No wonder you quote politicians like Zhirinovsky …"

    Do you know what sarcasm is?  Reread the last paragraph and think of the word "sarcasm".  See if that doesn’t help.

    P.S. – Her name is Tansu, not Tancu.

    ………………………………………….

    Despite the multitude of lawsuits filed against U.S. Presidents and their administrations, it seems no one is concerned about the demise of democracy in the U.S.  Pity the Americans (as their own government continues to spy on them) …

  17. Kemal
    April 1st, 2008 at 02:07

    Correction:

    … understand the legal process that is being undertaken.

  18. ak parti
    April 17th, 2008 at 05:15
    #18
Comments are closed.

PoliGazette Comments Policy

PoliGazette encourages comments from all viewpoints, especially those that disagree. Comments submitted must, however, adhere to the following standards. Comments that violate these standards may be edited or deleted without notice at the sole discretion of the editors. Commenters who repeatedly or egregiously violate these standards or who attempt to argue publicly with editors regarding the comments policy may be banned from commenting further.

(1) Comments should address the substantive content of the post. Comments that repeatedly or blatantly misrepresent the content of the post or of others' comments are not welcome. Comments that respond to something other than which the contributor or commenter may have said are irrelevant and should not be posted.

(2) Comments should avoid vulgarity as well as racial, ethnic, religious, or sexual bigotry.

(3) Comments should not personally attack the character, personal integrity, or professional reputation of any PoliGazette contributor or of other commenters.

(4) Comments should reflect the contributions of the commenters themselves and should not include extensive cut-and-paste reproductions of others' words except insofar as necessary to supplement the commenter's own arguments. Link spam, trackback spam, and propaganda spam will be instantly deleted.

(5) Public figures are considered open to all substantive criticism of their policies and statements. Comments that present objectively false factual information about public figures (i.e. "Obama is a Muslim") or that attack public figures by attacking their families are not welcome. Comments that merely repeat slogans for or against a candidate without engaging in substantive comment are not welcome.

Questions or challenges to these policies or their application should be directed to the editors by email only.