Hillary Clinton Attacks MoveOn

April 19th, 2008 By: Michael van der Galien | Tags:

At a small closed-door fundraiser after Super Tuesday, Sen. Hillary Clinton blamed what she called the “activist base” of the Democratic Party — and MoveOn.org in particular — for many of her electoral defeats, saying activists had “flooded” state caucuses and “intimidated” her supporters, according to an audio recording of the event obtained by The Huffington Post.’

Here’s what she said (you can click on the link above to hear her say it):

“Moveon.org endorsed [Sen. Barack Obama] — which is like a gusher of money that never seems to slow down,” Clinton said to a meeting of donors. “We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party. MoveOn didn’t even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that’s what we’re dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it’s primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don’t agree with them. They know I don’t agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me.”

Of course, the MoveOn crowd doesn’t like it, to say the least, but she’s completely right. The far left thinks they control the Democratic Party. As far as I’m concerned, Hillary now does what leading Democrats should all do; tell MoveOn, Daily Kos, CODE PINK, and so on, to go screw themselves.

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  1. Interested
    April 19th, 2008 at 12:43
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    oh, so it’s not the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (tm by HRC) this time around?

    Hillary Rodham Clinton – The Victim Candidate for you.

  2. Michael van der Galien
    April 19th, 2008 at 13:41
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    LOL – although she most certainly enjoys playing the victim, she’s not alone in this. Obama does so constantly (as well). Even worse than Clinton. Especially his hardcore supporters. They’re not nicknamed the whiners for nothing.

  3. C Stanley
    April 19th, 2008 at 14:04
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    The one thing I like about her statements here is that she’s clearly delineating her positions from those of the netroots. I’d much rather see politicians do that rather than taking a phony triangulation stance. On the minus side, though, she only came out with this after it was clear that there’s absolutely no way that she’ll make a foothold with that crowd (so it’s based on expediency, to try to further attract the part of the Dem base that also doesn’t like the extreme left, rather than being done on principle.) Note that I’m not saying that any other politician is being more principled about this, I think they all try to keep one foot on either side of certain lines all of the time. McCain came pretty close to a principled stance on immigration, and I like that even as he’s given some ground to the far right on the issue he does so grudgingly rather than pandering to them: "All right, I’ll build the damn wall." By responding that way, he’s accepting the political reality but he isn’t giving over too much power and influence to the more extreme wings of the party. That’s the way a moderate should act, IMO. Fight hard for the middle ground, and then if it becomes apparent that there’s too much opposition from the wings, you give up just as much ground as you have to but you don’t pretend that you suddenly agree with them.

  4. JoeCHI
    April 19th, 2008 at 14:44
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    Whatever Clinton thinks about the activist base, it’s nothing compared to the vile attacks launched at her and her supporters by MoveOn, Kos, and the Netroots.This despite the fact that it was Clinton who had the spine to send Wolfson on O’Reilly to defend Kos.  Never mind that Clinton voted against censuring MoveOn, while Obama skipped out of the Senate just minutes before the vote was held.We Clinton supporters have been threatened, attacked, and banned all over internet.  We know are well-aware of the loony left’s tactics, and perhaps, just how Clinton feels.

  5. C Stanley
    April 19th, 2008 at 14:59
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    I guess I read to fast and missed some of the details; I see now that I was wrong about the timing and also didn’t realize that Clinton said these things behind closed doors.

  6. Bill W
    April 19th, 2008 at 15:18
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    Why doesn’t she say it publicly?  She has nothing to lose at this point, Moveon, Kos and Huffington are have been so blindingly anti-Hillary, pro-Obama that if she pointed it out, and the differences that she has with them, she might actually get some converts for having some intestinal fortitude.  But… its Hillary, she doesn’t have any, she has no internal values, and is just a pure politician.  

    That is why the polls don’t move with all of the negative things that come out about Obama – because she keeps stepping in it herself, or reminds people why they don’t like her – dishonesty, manipulation, etc.

  7. Rudi666
    April 20th, 2008 at 05:14
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    Hillary sure loved MoveOn when they defended Clenis for the Monika thingy. Now they won’t play in her sandbox/litterbox and Billary isn’t happy, and kicks them out and takes their toys. So what…

  8. Chris
    April 20th, 2008 at 18:03
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    A veritable "vast left wing conspiracy"

  9. HobbesDFW
    April 21st, 2008 at 01:57
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    It gets better – while Clinton is attacking MoveOn.org, Richard Mellon Scaife’s newspaper in Pittsburgh endorses Hillary…

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080420/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_endorsement

    Irony so thick you can cut it with a knife.

  10. Interested
    April 21st, 2008 at 02:15

    better and better. This farce of a candidate now has had Bill say this

    "And let me just say this — don’t you think for a minute that if you don’t get her — if you give her a big victory here — after all the blizzard of money and all these ads and the kitchen sink has been thrown at her. I asked her about that — I said, ‘They are throwing the kitchen sink at ya.’ She said, ‘Well, Harry Truman said if you can’t stand the heat you should get out of the kitchen.’ So the only thing I said is, ‘Well, you have got to figure out how to keep the kitchen sink in the kitchen now,’" Clinton told the crowd.

     I think Bill forgot which candidate said they were doing the throwing.

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