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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/04/30/barack-obama-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-45345</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama’s take on that was that Wright doesn’t really mean all that stuff but just uses it to stir up righteous indignation to get people motivated to act to improve their community. This is a misunderstanding though, because lo and behold…Wright actually does believe everything he says and he’s not willing to back down.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;My freaking God. Of course he does. If you don&#039;t understand that, as Obama, you&#039;re complete moron. This man has studied black liberation theology, constantly touts its &#039;inventors,&#039; and talks about nothing else. 

So your kind explanation basically means that Obama is an idiot.

O, and someone who has no problem with a preacher who lies to his flock.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The anger that Obama expresses now seems genuine, because he truly seems to feel betrayed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I disagree. I think he&#039;s angry, not because he feels betrayed, but because he thought that he could keep up the act. He didn&#039;t think Wright would go after him this aggressively (he&#039;s black and all). But Wright now probably considers Obama a traitor. 

The real anger here is coming from Wright. Obama&#039;s not angry; he&#039;s just fighting for his political life, especially his standing in the African-American community.
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What seems odd is that a man as intelligent as Obama didn’t seem to understand the currents in racial politics; I would think he would have realized that he couldn’t straddle the line between militant black leaders and those who want to move toward a postracial society. That divide predates MLK and Malcolm X, and it seems obvious to me that we still need to come to terms with it. Obama seems to have thought we could skip over that and everyone would eventually just make nice.
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Isn&#039;t that the problem with his government vision as well? He thinks all problems and differences will be solved magically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama’s take on that was that Wright doesn’t really mean all that stuff but just uses it to stir up righteous indignation to get people motivated to act to improve their community. This is a misunderstanding though, because lo and behold…Wright actually does believe everything he says and he’s not willing to back down.
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<p>My freaking God. Of course he does. If you don&#8217;t understand that, as Obama, you&#8217;re complete moron. This man has studied black liberation theology, constantly touts its &#8216;inventors,&#8217; and talks about nothing else. </p>
<p>So your kind explanation basically means that Obama is an idiot.</p>
<p>O, and someone who has no problem with a preacher who lies to his flock.</p>
<blockquote><p>The anger that Obama expresses now seems genuine, because he truly seems to feel betrayed.</p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree. I think he&#8217;s angry, not because he feels betrayed, but because he thought that he could keep up the act. He didn&#8217;t think Wright would go after him this aggressively (he&#8217;s black and all). But Wright now probably considers Obama a traitor. </p>
<p>The real anger here is coming from Wright. Obama&#8217;s not angry; he&#8217;s just fighting for his political life, especially his standing in the African-American community.</p>
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What seems odd is that a man as intelligent as Obama didn’t seem to understand the currents in racial politics; I would think he would have realized that he couldn’t straddle the line between militant black leaders and those who want to move toward a postracial society. That divide predates MLK and Malcolm X, and it seems obvious to me that we still need to come to terms with it. Obama seems to have thought we could skip over that and everyone would eventually just make nice.
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<p>Isn&#8217;t that the problem with his government vision as well? He thinks all problems and differences will be solved magically.</p>
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		<title>By: C Stanley</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2008/04/30/barack-obama-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-45333</link>
		<dc:creator>C Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What’s most interesting&lt;/strong&gt; is that Obama said that he couldn’t disown Wright, simply because disowning Wright would equal disowning the entire African-American community. But now, all of a sudden, he can disown Wright (even thought he good old pastor said nothing new). Did Obama just disown the African-American community?
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LOL. 

I actually disagree a bit though. I do think Obama is sincerely angry at this point, and I don&#039;t agree that the only thing that has changed is time.

I think that Obama and Wright each thought that they understood each other- that one was speaking (in a very outspoken, inflammatory way) as a preacher, and one as a politician. Obama&#039;s take on that was that Wright doesn&#039;t really mean all that stuff but just uses it to stir up righteous indignation to get people motivated to act to improve their community. This is a misunderstanding though, because lo and behold...Wright actually does believe everything he says and he&#039;s not willing to back down. 

For his part, Wright apparently thought that Obama agreed with him but &lt;wink, wink&gt; as a politician he couldn&#039;t speak the same way. Turns out, Wright was mistaken as well- Obama doesn&#039;t view the world anywhere near as starkly &quot;us against them&quot; as Wright does.

The anger that Obama expresses now seems genuine, because he truly seems to feel betrayed. Same with Wright&#039;s willingness to hurt Obama- because he feels that the &#039;understanding&#039; they had has been breached and that Obama is going too far with the politician talk, that he&#039;s selling out basically.
That&#039;s my take on it, anyway.

What seems odd is that a man as intelligent as Obama didn&#039;t seem to understand the currents in racial politics; I would think he would have realized that he couldn&#039;t straddle the line between militant black leaders and those who want to move toward a postracial society. That divide predates MLK and Malcolm X, and it seems obvious to me that we still need to come to terms with it. Obama seems to have thought we could skip over that and everyone would eventually just make nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em><strong>What’s most interesting</strong> is that Obama said that he couldn’t disown Wright, simply because disowning Wright would equal disowning the entire African-American community. But now, all of a sudden, he can disown Wright (even thought he good old pastor said nothing new). Did Obama just disown the African-American community?<br />
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LOL. </p>
<p>I actually disagree a bit though. I do think Obama is sincerely angry at this point, and I don&#8217;t agree that the only thing that has changed is time.</p>
<p>I think that Obama and Wright each thought that they understood each other- that one was speaking (in a very outspoken, inflammatory way) as a preacher, and one as a politician. Obama&#8217;s take on that was that Wright doesn&#8217;t really mean all that stuff but just uses it to stir up righteous indignation to get people motivated to act to improve their community. This is a misunderstanding though, because lo and behold&#8230;Wright actually does believe everything he says and he&#8217;s not willing to back down. </p>
<p>For his part, Wright apparently thought that Obama agreed with him but &lt;wink, wink&gt; as a politician he couldn&#8217;t speak the same way. Turns out, Wright was mistaken as well- Obama doesn&#8217;t view the world anywhere near as starkly &quot;us against them&quot; as Wright does.</p>
<p>The anger that Obama expresses now seems genuine, because he truly seems to feel betrayed. Same with Wright&#8217;s willingness to hurt Obama- because he feels that the &#8216;understanding&#8217; they had has been breached and that Obama is going too far with the politician talk, that he&#8217;s selling out basically.<br />
That&#8217;s my take on it, anyway.</p>
<p>What seems odd is that a man as intelligent as Obama didn&#8217;t seem to understand the currents in racial politics; I would think he would have realized that he couldn&#8217;t straddle the line between militant black leaders and those who want to move toward a postracial society. That divide predates MLK and Malcolm X, and it seems obvious to me that we still need to come to terms with it. Obama seems to have thought we could skip over that and everyone would eventually just make nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Barack Obama: Politicians</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barack Obama: Politicians</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Annabella2 wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptYeah, like anyone is going to fall for this: Barack Obama has - finally, my God - ‘denounced‘ (kinda) Reverend Jeremiah Wright. “They certainly don’t portray accurately my values and beliefs. And if Reverend Wright thinks that that’s &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Annabella2 wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptYeah, like anyone is going to fall for this: Barack Obama has &#8211; finally, my God &#8211; ‘denounced‘ (kinda) Reverend Jeremiah Wright. “They certainly don’t portray accurately my values and beliefs. And if Reverend Wright thinks that that’s &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this is a flip flop.  Wrights message did not change, yet Obama&#039;s position on that message changed.  The only thing thin that changed was time.  That being said, it is true that the company you keep helps define the person.  However, I am not sure that being bashed over the head by the Obama-Wright relationship in the news at this point has just become noise.  I think people have formed their opinions already, and moved on regarding this issue. What I think most people want to hear from the candidates are more about the real issues, not relationships, not he said-she said.   What about the congress letting the &quot;green tax rebate&quot; to solar and wind companies expire?  As we speak, some of these companies are moving to Germany.  How can we tackle and slow down the rate at which the price of a barrel of oil is increasing that in turn is increasing the price of food?  These summer gas tax holiday ideas are ridiculous.  It seems that the coverage between the candidates belongs more in the realm of &quot;EXTRA&quot; and &#039;Entertainment Tonight&quot; than on Meet the press.  I care, but care less about who a candidate hangs out with, and more about how he or she can help solve some of the big issues in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this is a flip flop.  Wrights message did not change, yet Obama&#8217;s position on that message changed.  The only thing thin that changed was time.  That being said, it is true that the company you keep helps define the person.  However, I am not sure that being bashed over the head by the Obama-Wright relationship in the news at this point has just become noise.  I think people have formed their opinions already, and moved on regarding this issue. What I think most people want to hear from the candidates are more about the real issues, not relationships, not he said-she said.   What about the congress letting the &quot;green tax rebate&quot; to solar and wind companies expire?  As we speak, some of these companies are moving to Germany.  How can we tackle and slow down the rate at which the price of a barrel of oil is increasing that in turn is increasing the price of food?  These summer gas tax holiday ideas are ridiculous.  It seems that the coverage between the candidates belongs more in the realm of &quot;EXTRA&quot; and &#8216;Entertainment Tonight&quot; than on Meet the press.  I care, but care less about who a candidate hangs out with, and more about how he or she can help solve some of the big issues in this country.</p>
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