EU Passes Inhumane and Hypocritical anti-Illegal Immigration Law
The European Union has just passed a law that is, quite simply, inhumane and utterly hypocritical. The law allows European governments to lock up illegal immigrants for a period of 18 months, after which the illegal alien “will be banned from European territory for five years.”
Criticized by groups like Amnesty International as “severely flawed” and an erosion of human rights standards, the so-called return directive was passed in the European Parliament here by a 369-to-197 vote, with 106 legislators abstaining…
Ten amendments to the measure, proposed by Socialists and intended to offer migrants some protections and legal recourse, were rejected. They included a requirement that a judge approve detention within 72 hours of an arrest, the obligation to provide detainees with free legal counsel and the possibility of making the five-year ban on re-entry optional. Other amendments would have reduced the maximum detention period to six months rather than 18 and insisted on greater assurances for the protection of unaccompanied children.
One opponent of the measure, Cimade — the only French nongovernmental organization authorized to work in France’s 23 detention centers — released a statement saying that it deplored the passage of what civil liberties groups have called “the directive of shame,” and said it was weighing contesting it before the European Court of Justice or the European Court of Human Rights.
This is not merely an inhumane law – and I’m speaking as an immigration hawk here – it’s also highly hypocritical. Europeans have blasted the US for locking up terrorism suspects without due process, but now we will do the exact same thing; albeit not with terrorists, but with illegal immigrants.
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I wish America would adopt a similar law.
What is so inhumane about not wanting illegal aliens draining your social services dry?What is so inhumane about not wanting illegal aliens treating your country like they treat their 3rd world country?
Deportations…si se puede!!!
I guess I’m more of a hawk than you Michael. I don’t see any problem with this law, especially because both you and I know that all of our spineless governments will never implement it. Spain has already casually informed that it won’t do any such thing and will up the internment to a whole 40 days….that’s how tough the big guys are. After 40 days of course, they’ll be free to go, since you can bet hard cash no one is being deported.
My whole problem with European directives is that they seem like a nice way to spend more of our tax money while doing absolutely nothing. C’mon Michael, you know as well as I do that European directives lack any teeth at all. The worst thing about this isn’t the interment length, it’s that it doesn’t address the actual problem; the governments of illegal immigrants refuse to accept their citizens back. All of South America has already informed Europe (and especially Spain, that has most of their people) that it will never accept the deportations. Unless European countries get rough (meaning blocking money transfers until they start accepting their people) this internment rule has no use whatsoever.
We have now come inured to the trolls who pose as racist yahoos trying to elicit support for those who believe in liberty and freedom. from those who call themselves Americans, for those who strive to build a democratic U.S.A. But, I will accommodate these poseurs. It is an old trick to use the word illegal as if that makes a person criminal for trying to care for his loved ones, just as did all our immigrant forebears.
This is legally not true any more than it is morally so. If a person speeds over the 55 mph limit on most U.S. highways, he might get a ticket, but that does not make him an illegal being.. To cross the border without regularized status is not a crime in the U.SA, but a civil trespass against immigration policy, equivalent to a scofflaw, which is why the Congress has tried to criminalize being here without documentation. Their efforts have been soundly defeated 3 times in as many years.
America has always been an immigration sanctuary since its settling by Europeans (actually earlier) welcomed and taught survival skills by an accommodating first nation, through its colonial period to the founding as an independent nation to the pioneer settlement on the West Coast, immigrant labor, just as today, built America and continues to enrich and revitalize the U.S.
The fact is as the trolls above slyly imply, this hatred of immigrants by neo-Know Nothing nativists is all about anti-Latino racism. It is evident in reports of attacks upon Latinos that people assumed were "illegal." On Long Island there are 4 million Latinos, of whom 500,ooo are immigrants. Of these immigrants, 80,000 are estimated to be without regular immigration status. You would think from the ferocious clamor by the few, the numbers were just the opposite.
80% of Americans believe, according to all the polls, over many years, that we should find a mechanism to bring the vulnerable out from the shadows to an official track to residency and citizenship. They have well earned it, The ugly little truth is these mean spirited descendents of immigrants do not want any legality conferred by political accomodation. Legality is the very last thing they seek. So the hypocrisy is deafening. –mo
leoneill, however, if an illegal is using faked documents thats fraud, which is a felony.
i dont think we’re going to get anywhere on the immigration issue if there still exists people who treat the other side as if they’re arguments are illegitimate, whether claiming racism by whites who don’t want browns in their country, or racism by La Raza wanting to take back Aztlan.
Leoneil again represents the no thinkers and resorts to name calling. I’m sick of the fuzzy thinking do gooders who want to spend my money and destroy civility by condeming those who feel unprotected borders and our economy can solve the worlds poverty and social problems by accepting all that want to sneak in to our country. The majority of these interlopers come from south of the border and are brown, but we cannot guess if your brown you have a better chance of being illegal, screw racial profiling. It is an idea to protect the guilty not the innocent. I do notice the loudest that support the illegal alien invaders are not willing to go and try to improve the situations that make these thiefs sneak into good old USA. They want us to put up with this total lack of respect to our laws to satisfy their misplaced loyalism to some subjective idea of doing right. The argument that we are a nation of immigrants, and should continue to be is irrational and irrelevant.
They should put a block on the tax form that you check if you
are in favor of open borders and unlimited immigration..
The instructions should say to add $4000 dollars to your
taxes due if you checked yes.
This would help pay for welfare, healthcare and misc.
expenses for the flood of people that would come into the
country.
I wonder how many of the open borders bleeding hearts
would check the box.
That only applies if you make some pretty strong and unflattering assumptions about immigrants, Phil. Most are seeking jobs, not welfare. And those who support increased immigration do not necessarily support making immigrants eligible for government benefits anyway. Most support increases in LEGAL immigration combined with some form of amnesty for the people already here and already invested in our society. Most also support reasonable increases in border security too, just not unreasonable “100%” obstructionist fantasies.
Perhaps you could trouble yourself to respond to things that people actually believe instead of stuff you make up and assign to them.
The fact of the matter is that immigrants are the only thing that might prevent fiscal meltdown in about 30 years. Perhaps you should consider the ACTUAL economic impacts of immigration instead of fictions made up by anti-immigration groups.
The open racism that infests so many anti-immigration types is clearly shown above from their own keyboards. It is not merely a slander from the other side.
30 years ago California schools were the best in the country.
Now they are just about the worst.
They have to deal with immigrants speaking about a 100
different languages.
I don’t see this as an example of enriching this country.
The people who made this country what it is are the
scientist, engineers, inventors and entrepreneurs who created
the industries that made the U.S. the most advanced
industrialized and most productive county in the world.
It wasn’t people pushing lawn mowers, waiting on tables
or washing dishes.
Phil,
Your latest comment must have been scripted, because it doesn’t respond to anything I actually said.
And it is also just wrong. Many of the scientific advancements you are so proud of came from immigrants. Ever heard of Einstein? Nuclear technology came from immigrants. Rocket technology was built by immigrants. The internet was in large part designed and built by immigrants.
And all immigrant communities start at the bottom, waiting tables and picking up garbage. Ever heard of the Irish experience in the beginning of the 20th century? Over time, they all assimilate.
The idea that immigrants only push lawnmowers and wait on tables and wash dishes is just a stereotype on your part. The technology and medical research industries are chock full of Asians, btw. In many “hard science” fields, Asians dominate whites in obtaining PhDs and publishing research. As for entrepreneurs, I would say that ethnic Indians and Chinese are often the very stereotype of entrepreneurial spirit. And from what I saw in Tijauna, entrepreneurialism is hardly foreign to Mexicans either.
Bottom line: You don’t know what you are talking about. You’re just regurgitating the scripted talking points from right-wing talk radio.
LAME. Try engaging the real world instead of one built for you to ideological specification by extremists and not a few racists. Immigration is on-balance an economic POSITIVE, as Japan learned in the 1990s with their labor shortage and Europe is going to find out in the next 30 years to their chagrin. Those who hate immigrants for economic reasons are just wrong. Those who hate immigrants for cultural or racial reasons are cutting off their nose to spite their face.
It is reasonable to screen immigrants for criminal connections and to disallow their entry into this country if they have a criminal background or criminal associations.
It is reasonable to ask for increased border security to guard against smuggling and human trafficking, especially if such requests are accompanied by a recognition that no system can ever be 100%
It is reasonable to demand that Mexico and China and other problem states take actions on their end to reduce the supply of immigrants.
It is not reasonable to demonize and stereotype people when the vast majority of them just want a job.
About 30000 anchor babies are born in the U.S.
every year.
The hospitals and tax payer absorb the 97% of the cost.
They receive heathcare, housing assistance,
and food stamps and education at tax payer
expense.
This seems like welfare to me.
"Anchor babies": Another racist term that assumes rather than proves anything.
Your script is so predictable that it is pathetic, Phil. You don’t respond to anything I say, you just move on to another scripted talking point.
In truth, many of what are called "anchor babies" are just normal people having children. They aren’t part of some grand plot to subvert the republic or destroy your culture. And the idea that a baby who is innocent of everything should be denied care simply because you don’t like the cultural origin of the parents is sad.
Also, I don’t know where your statistics come from, but citing them without attribution = plagiarism if they are real and intellectual fraud if you are just making them up yourself.
"The hospitals and tax payer absorb the 97% of the cost. They receive heathcare, housing assistance, and food stamps and education at tax payer expense. This seems like welfare to me." I am an ‘anchor baby,’ as the latest screed-callers have named us. Believe me, over the years, we’ve been called plenty of other names as well. However, none of these ‘benefits’ named above, were given to us who were born on US soil, nor to my immigrant parents who were born elsewhere. None. Zero. ZipWhat was given us for free to us by many US citizens was plenty of misunderstanding, plenty of injustice, incivility, disrespect and menacing. Free hospital care? It took our families years, YEARS, to pay off several emergency hospital bills, one particular hospital bill when one of my immigrant uncles was thrown purposely from the bus steps by a hate-filled stranger…a stranger who was a US citizenHousing assistance? ONly the kind of assistance certain US citizens used to bar us from living in safer neighborhoods, and instead drove immigrants and their ‘anchor babies’ into crime ridden neighborhoods. Crime-ridden incidentally, because of US citizens who thrived on crime against immigrants, refugees, displaced persons, and brazos plan workersWhen I look over the landscape of what used to be and what is now, for my family, that all this ugly and unjust screed in the culture in the US has come alive again in the last ten years and is aimed at any of us who are Latino, no matter where we were born, I can only say that, well, this makes life hard, way harder than it already is.Call us whatever you like I guess, we’re still your brothers and sisters anyway. dr.e
Jason, get off of the tired old scream racism tactic constantly used by you typical Kumbaya singing liberals. You do not know the race of Phil, you are showing your bias and racist baiting ways. Arcangel. You are right, this is a terrible place for you and your family. I am shocked you would want to stay. Poor you.
Arlo, if you think I am a liberal, it is you who is proceeding based on nothing but ignorance and prejudices. Contrary to what you may assume, it is not solely liberals that object to racism.
And it is not necessary to know someone’s race in order to detect racism. One need only look at what they are saying.
Agreed, I dont know your race, yet your race baiting comments are glaringly obvious. You finally made an intelligent arguement.
Great. Now it’s your turn. I am pro-immigration because I have actually read the research that finds that immigrants have a POSITIVE overall economic impact. Furthermore, immigrants offer the ONLY hope of avoiding labor shortages and fiscal meltdown due to an aging population as we move towards the middle of this century. Also, immigrants have LOWER overall crime rates than natives, thus showing that many of the stereotypes about them are flatly wrong.
So, do you have substantive responses from the anti-immigrant side? Or is your presence here just to run interference for the racists who actually ARE a major part of the anti-immigration movement? What you call “race-baiting” I call identifying actual racism. I am not someone who cries “racism” at the drop of a hat and I have criticized people who do. But the rhetoric of “Juan McCain” and the crying about disease, crime, and the alleged destruction of American culture that OFTEN comes from anti-immigration types actually IS racism. They object to Hispanic immigrants, but not Brits or Canadians. HMMMMMM.
Vinton Cerf, Robert Kahn, Leonard Klienrock are the people
given credit for developing the internet.
Tim Berners-Lee developed the world wide web.
Vinton Cerf is considered the father of the internet.
Non of these people are immigrants.
The first three are american born.
Tim Berners-Lee is a british.
Einstein, Enrico Fermi and Werner Von Braun immigrated to
the U.S. legally about 60 years ago.
They were highly educated scientist when they immigrated.
Immigrants like these helped make our schools the best in the world 30 years ago.
Our schools now rank around 18 out of about 25 other
industrialized countries.
American born Robert Goddard is considered the father of rocketry.
Mexico’s average education level is only about 6th grade.
Would the U.S. be better off if the education level of
the country could be reduced to 6th grade.
California schools really have gone from ranking #1
to about 47 in the last 30 years.
Los Angeles school students score lowest on achievement
test of all major cities except Atlanta.
The immigration problem has nothing to do with foreign scientist and engineers working in this country legally
It is about the flood of illegal immigration from Mexico.