Armenian Revolts: A Documentary
For the first time published at PoliGazette, here is Armenian Revolts, the Documentary. It outlines quite well what happened back in 1915, and the events leading up to the massive deportation of (Anatolian) Ottoman Armenians. Several famous historians (such as Justin McCarthy and Norman Stone - generally accepted as one of the best in the world) have worked with the producers of the documentary. I encourage all readers of this website to watch it. Be informed.
Here’s the documentary, in six parts. That’s a lot, yes, but considering the fact that American Senators seem to find it their business to force their own version of history on others, I’d say that it’s definitely worth your time to watch. And if you’re a politician or a journalist you should especially watch it.











For some "unknown" reason, quite hard to find !!!
but I Managed to get the DVD 2 years ago…The story behind the making of this documentary is that Marty Callaghan was doing research for the documentary "Blood and Oil" - (The middle east in WWI) which focuses mainly on how the European countries were trying to dismember the Ottoman Empire. While researching in various countries’ archives, Mr. Callaghan found plenty of documents related to the involvement of the Armenians during the WWI period.http://www.civilwarweekly.com/products/consumer/bloodandoil/
http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Oil-Middle-East-World/dp/B000HEWH3CIt is worth getting the Blood & Oil documentary in order to better understand what was going on at that time.
Michael, thanks for this video. Very informative….
What happened here? Commentators like "John" have nothing to say? INTERESTING….
Here I am nevber, but I’m afraid I don’t have anything positive to say about this spectacle, which is pure propaganda, so logically and expectedly endorsed by Michal van der Galien.
To be honest with you I stopped watching this charade when a certain Mr. Asken claimed that ALL these attacks started by the Armenians, which is simply put, wrong. This kind of propaganda cannot stand any serious scrutiny by historians who know something about the Ottoman history.
It is so wonderful if not amusing to hear again, this massive transformation from "loyal Millet" to terrorists en masse, and why in the world the West took such an interest for the "wellbeing" of the Armenians if everything was fine and dandy as claimed by the honorable contributors of these production. The narrator somehow skips over those "minor" details.
Listen guys, there is nothing new in this video, it is part of the ongoing propaganda onslaught that the Turkish government is spending millions and millions of wasted dollars. But if it makes you feel good, go ahead it’s your money. Some people are fond of fiction, especially the fiction that the Ottoman Turk has done absolutely NOTHING wrong, and it is all the fault of the Armenian "al qaida" as the pitiful Halacoglu claims. Nothing short of comparison with, who else, but "al qaida" to try to make his propaganda stick!
This is a laughable product that sadly Turks are seen patting themselves on their shoulders., and for what? to convince whom? Why not instead invest on a real product that would actually accomplish something, why not talk about Armenian "revolts" AS WELL AS the Turkish oppression and persecution of the Armenians peasantry in Anatolia? Why not highlight the cruel usage of Kurdish tribes that were unleashed against the Armenians, tribes that were armed and bribed by the Sultan to silence the Armenians demands of NOT independence but REFORMS, have you heard about that other "minor" detail? Or are you so motivated by your own prejudices and yes, hatred, that you simply cannot bring yourselves to read and understand your own history?
But…in the mean time….
Get the popcorn ready, and raise your feet, the show continues.
In complement to this documentary:
1) An article by Justin McCarthy:
http://www.eraren.org/index.php?Lisan=en&Page=DergiIcerik&IcerikNo=134
2) An article by Edward J. Erickson:
http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2008/04/2438-armenians-and-ottoman-military.html
Listen guys, there is nothing new in this video, it is part of the ongoing propaganda onslaught that the Turkish government is spending millions and millions of wasted dollars. But if it makes you feel good, go ahead it’s your money.
Allegation without proof.
Why not highlight the cruel usage of Kurdish tribes that were unleashed against the Armenians, tribes that were armed and bribed by the Sultan to silence the Armenians demands
Not the Armenian demands, but the Armenian REVOLTS, uprisings, atrocities…
The violence of the Kurdish tribes was disproportionate and unjustifiable, but it was the vendetta, a tradition in Eastern Anatolia (as in Southern Italia): "you killed hundred members of my tribe, I kill five hundred members of your tribe". Provide additional arms to Kurdish tribes was not at all a good idea, but the provocation by the Hunchakists and the Dashnak is supported by valid evidence.
"One of the revolutionaries told Dr. Hamlin, the founder of Robert College, that the Hentchak bands would ‘watch their opportunity to kill Turks and Kurds, set fire to their villages, and then make their escape into the mountains. The enraged Moslems will then rise, and fall upon the defenceless Armenians and slaughter them with such barbarity that Russia will intervene in the name of humanity and Christian civilization.’ When the horrified missionary denounced the scheme as atrocious and infernal beyond anything ever known, he received this reply: ‘It appears so to you, no doubt; but we Armenians have determined to be free. Europe listened to the Bulgarian horrors and made Bulgaria free. She will listen to our cry when it goes up in the shrieks and blood of millions of women and children…. We are desperate. We shall do it’."
William L. Langer, The Diplomacy of Imperialism, New York, Knopf, 1960, p. 157-158.
Why could you invent against William L. Langer, one of the most respected American historians of the XXth century? Or against the strongly pro-Armenian Dr. Hamlin?
of NOT independence but REFORMS
Undoubtedly, there were, until 1912, notable Armenians who do not demanded independence, but the revolutionary committees wanted it.
"The immediate objective of the party was the political and national independence of Turkish Armenia. The conditions of the Armenians in Asiatic Turkey were described and the need to concentrate Hunchak activities in this area was explained. [...]
The most opportune time to institute the general rebellion for carrying out the immediate objective was when Turkey was engaged in a war."
Louise Nalbandian, The Armenian Revolutionary Movement, Berkeley/Los Angeles, University of California Press, 1963, partially avaible online, in the Web site… of Hunchakian party: http://www.hunchak.org.au/aboutus/historical_nalbandian.html
The testimony of General Mayewski, former Russian consul in Van and Erzurum during the 1890’s (reports published in 1916, under the title The Massacres in Armenia):
"In the Balkans people who have become famous with their self-sacrifice, courage and with the way they work, can be found. However, can such a person be found amongst the Armenians? No. Why?Because they have become used to living on the backs of the poor villagers and they are wild people playing the executioner role. Can this people be called saviors? No. because the guns in their hands were only used towards the weak people.And the unarmed Armenian villagers were forced to help the armed rebels at the cost of their blood.The Armenians came together in a known place in London to discuss this matter. Here, they decided that they needed to firstly stir up troubles, shed blood and attract the attention of the world.The rebellious committee was divided to three organizations: Dashnak, Hinchak and Armenia [=Armenakan, today Ramkavar/ADL].These organizations expanded everywhere in order to incite the villagers.They started with the teachers and with them they inoculated the young with the feelings of hatred and enmity towards Muslims. Thus, in a short time, like 3-4 years, many unconscious youngsters dedicated themselves to death."
English version of this publication:
http://louisville.edu/a-s/history/turks/Mayewsky.pdf
Recollections of Muslims survivors:
http://www.tbmm.gov.tr/yayinlar/yayin1/7-Konukcu(143-154).pdf
http://www.karabakh-doc.azerall.info/ru/armyanstvo/arm12eng.htm#z2-1
John, my misguided friend….. I wish you would stop saying "Turkish Propaganda". If Turks are spending millions, Armenians are spending billions! And let us not forget the US/EU. They are also spending fair amount of money on this issue. So EVERY ONE is spending money…. Who ever is more convincing and louder will effect the media, infiltrate the conciseness of the masses and tell THEIR OWN side of the story. The reason you couldn’t finish the video was, now Armenian Diaspora is not the ONLY voice…. Your community is not the only side telling the story… WE ARE TOO… whether you like it or not… Yeah, and the popcorn was great bonus!!! See you on the next show….
"why in the world the West took such an interest for the "wellbeing" of the Armenians if everything was fine and dandy"
They weren’t interested in the wellbeing of Armenians. They were interested in toppling the Ottoman Empire through the use of minority group rebellions, which were so effective in the Balkans.
Throughout the 19th Century the British were focused on protecting their interest in India, which they had colonized, and maintaining trade routes to India. The British feared that if Russia and the Ottoman Empire ever forged an alliance, that would create an axis of power that Europe could not counter effectively.
In an effort to weaken the Ottoman Empire and to ensure an alliance between the Ottomans and Russia would never be formed, the British began fomenting rebellion among Armenians, many of whom were also Russian subjects, thus ensuring that Russian interest in hostilities between the Ottoman regime and its ethnic Armenian minority would force Russia to take sides with its "Christian brethren", as opposed to the Ottomans. The British began this work in the mid-1800s.
The British and France incited and supported Ottoman Armenian violence against their state and their Muslim Ottoman neighbors throughout the 19th Century. And, as we all know, it came to a head during WWI when Russia, France and England armed, trained and worked in concert with Armenian militias to fight against and bring down the Ottoman regime.
And, it worked. The only problem is that Russia, to promote its own interests, planted a geogrpahic Armenia within its own territories by ethnically cleansing a segment of its own territory of all Muslims to fulfill its promise to Armenian revolutionary leaders to form a country for Armenians.
Armenians, however, wanted their country to stretch over vast lands encompassing the eastern third of Anatolia. Unfortunately for Armenian leaders, France, Britain and Russia didn’t have the stomache for the ethnic cleansing that would have required and dropped the "Armenian question" altogether– excluding them from the Paris Peace Conference and the discussions leading to the Lausanne Treaty.
No, Europe and Russia were definitely not interested in the "wellbeing" of Armenians. They were only interested in maintaining and increasing their own power over lands that were vital to the stability of their own economies and expansionist aims, so they used Armenians for their own benefit. And, when they no longer needed the Armenians to cause problems in Anatolia, they dropped them like a sack of potatos.
Rather than being rightfully angry with those that made promises and then didn’t deliver (i.e., France, Britain and Russia), Armenians focus the anger resulting from their frustrated political aims at Turks who rightfully and legally defended themselves and their lands.
19th Century Armenian leaders miscalculated and overestimated the support they would receive from the west and from Russia, as they still do today.
It’s quite simple,
The Armenian revolutionary leaders, mostly Russian Armenians, simply did not like to have despotic Islamic rulers. They wanted a socialist/communist state that was ruled by Christians (themselves). They were educated people, and they believed that as Armenians, they would be better leaders for Armenians.
The Armenians knew they were not powerful enough in number or strength to defeat an Ottoman Army, so they relied on propaganda, firstly provoking attacks by Kurds and local Muslims, which they immediately reported to European consuls, who did not mind telling about suffering of Armenians, even though the suffering was initiated and provoked by the Dashnaks.
The Result? More people joined the Dashnaks, and the Dashnaks became powerful enough to FORCE every Armenian to enlist with the Dashnaks. The Armenian revolt had begun, and every time, Christian deaths were reported and spread with such passion, while Muslim deaths or massacres were ignored. Public opinion in Europe changed to a more Anti-Turkish attitude, which aided the governments who already wanted to divide up the Ottoman Empire, but they did not trust each other on who would receive the spoils.
By the way… The Armenian Revolt Documentary first appeared in Armenian Genocide Debate. Not in Poligazette. Michael you should really check your emails.
Armenian Revolt Documentary
for your information :
an article of M.Morgenthau in The Red Cross Magazine March 1918 : Henry Morgenthau The Greatest Horror in History :
http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=45850
Morgenthau’s lies are crushed by Heath Lowry and Guenter Lewy since several years.
Prof. Lowry’s book about Morgenthau is available online:
http://www.eraren.org/index.php?Lisan=en&Page=YayinIcerik&SayiNo=18
On the other hand, the edito-in-chief or armenews.com, Ara Toranian, was the spokesman of two terrorist groups: the ASALA from 1976 to 1983, and the ASALA-RM (dissident) from 1983 to 1985. Until 1988, Mr. Toranian edited a newspaper, “Hay Baykar” (Armenian Fight), who supported vehemently the principle of terrorism.
What a reference, Bedros!
Lucrece , for your information , you can read this :
Finally he threatened: “Vous aller voir maintenant, ce que c’est que de réclamer des reformes”.166 Other CUP sympathizers in Diyarbekir were Pirinççizâde Sıdkı (Tarancı), Yasinzâde Şevki (Ekinci), his brother Yasinzâde Yahya (Ekinci), and Müftüzâde Şeref (Uluğ), among less prominent others.167 The CUP’s policy towards the inhabitants of the eastern provinces varied between containment and repression. The day after the Kurdish revolt of Bitlis, on 4 April 1914, the Central Committee of the CUP convened to review its policy towards the eastern provinces. Mithat Şükrü (Bleda) pointed out that Russia was gradually tightening its grip on many Kurdish tribes in both the Ottoman Empire and Persia. According to him an other danger were Armenian revolutionaries, who were awaiting the right opportunity to revolt and could at any time strike. He concocted a divide-and-rule strategy and maintained that on no account should Kurdish and Armenian politicians be allowed to unite. He suggested that the CUP should now adopt a more sophisticated stick-and-carrot strategy, enrolling potentially loyal chieftains through rhetoric and bribery, while threatening potentially disloyal chieftains with deportation and incarceration.168 The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo on 28 June 1914 stirred up acute international tensions. In the midst of this belligerent atmosphere, the CUP sought to forge alliances with any of the Great Powers in order for the empire to emerge from its diplomatic isolation. Cavid Bey, the pro-British Minister of Finance, had appealed to Britain in 1911, but apart from Winston Churchill, the Foreign Office was not interested.169 Talât flirted with Russia on his trip to the Crimea in May, where he spoke to the Russian Foreign Minister Sazonov about a possible alliance. The Russians expressed ambivalence in judgement but in essence were not interested. Cemal Paşa approached France but left empty-handed, lamenting the negotiations with the French as “a huge disappointment” (büyük bir hayal kırıklığı). On 24 July 1914 a general mobilization was issued by the Ottoman general staff. On 28 July, the same day that Austria- Hungary declared war against Serbia, Enver Paşa proposed a defensive alliance between Imperial Germany and the Ottoman Empire to the German ambassador Wangenheim. In the next days Grand Vizier Said Halim, Chairman of the Parliament Halil, Enver, and Talât launched intensive negotiations with the Germans behind closed doors. Finally, on 2 August, one day after the German declaration of war against Russia, a written agreement was signed between the two states. The discussions were top secret, and even Cemal Paşa had no knowledge of them. Three days later Austria-Hungary joined the Turko-German alliance and completed the Central Powers bloc, whereas Russia, France and Britain united into the Entente Powers. The Ottoman Empire was now officially allied to Germany and on account of the treaty was inevitably obliged in this political constellation to prepare for war. Following the succession of declarations of war in August 1914, the Germans urged Minister of War Enver Paşa at the end of October to act against Russia. Without a formal declaration of war, Enver ordered the Ottoman navy to immediately bomb the Russian shore, destroying oil tanks and sinking 14 vessels.Though few politicians in Istanbul knew of Enver’s solo adventure, this fait accompli triggered declarations of war by the Triple Entente powers. From 11 November 1914 on, the Ottoman Empire was officially at war with Russia, France, and Britain.
P34 : http://www.ermenisoykirimi.net/thesis.pdf
This has nothing to do with Morgenthau’s book. You are confessing that you have no argument against Heath Lowry and Guenter Lewy. You are trying to go to an “argument” to another.
Your new text is a compilation of half-truth and tendencious commentaries. For example, from 19 February to 22 May 1916, 70 Ottoman Muslims were tried for crimes against Armenians. The instigator of these trials was Talat Pasha himself (Yusuf Halaçoglu, “The Story of 1915. What Happened to the Ottoman Armenians?”, Ankara, TTK, 2008, p. 84-86).
During the Spring 1915, Armenian gangs exterminated Turks in Hirik, a village of Diyarbekir vilayet. In Diyarbekir itself, Ottoman police found arms depots in Armenian churchs or houses.
Morgenthau was an ambassador of United States , between 1913 - 1916 in Turkey.
Yes. And?