Comments on: How Obama is Going to Win: Demoralize http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/01/how-obama-is-going-to-win-demoralize/ Because Common Sense Transcends Distance Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:26:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: DB http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/01/how-obama-is-going-to-win-demoralize/comment-page-1/#comment-75895 DB Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:56:12 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=8546#comment-75895 I have to agree with Pug. Living with a Republican who's views I respect, I've found him unable to understand my unhappiness over the Bush administration's policies. I've been vocal at home as each issue came up over the eight years and basically been dismissed. I would have preferred John McCain in 2000. Wiretapping Americans without the FISA court permission (and I'm OK with the "after the fact" approval) was wrong. It's not how we treat Americans. Going into Iraq when it didn't take a genius to recognize Saddam was just hot air and posturing showed a lack of understanding of the realities of war. We squandered our military strength and took our eyes off of Bin Laden and Afghanistan. Unfortunately, blind loyalty to the office of President (and that's a laugh since Clinton didn't get that loyalty) has to be measured against the American Constitution and American ideals. I've been very upfront about my beliefs that torture is against American ideals, economic boycotts hurt the poorest and therefore are against American ideals, ruling out diplomacy so we can display our might is against American ideals, so many chances to lead with America's best foot forward squandered by rhetoric and saber rattling. Still, my in-house Republican can't understand why anyone would think poorly of the Bush administration and the havic they have wrought in the Middle East and Asia. Yes, I hope Obama wins. Even if he wins by a landslide, I hope he realizes that before any liberal agenda is pursued he must return America to the American way - reverse most of the executive rules and signing statements issued over the last eight years, rein in the wiretapping of Americans, initiate talks with our neighbors in South America, seek a diplomatic solution in Afghanistan, allow Iraq to determine it's future without our military there in any capacity, close Quantanimo and release all prisoners including accepting into America those who can't go home, repair our relationship with Russia. If he can do all of that and deal with the current economic swamp we have dived into, it will be enough for the first four years. We can reconsider where we stand and who we want for President in 2012. I have to agree with Pug. Living with a Republican who’s views I respect, I’ve found him unable to understand my unhappiness over the Bush administration’s policies. I’ve been vocal at home as each issue came up over the eight years and basically been dismissed. I would have preferred John McCain in 2000. Wiretapping Americans without the FISA court permission (and I’m OK with the “after the fact” approval) was wrong. It’s not how we treat Americans. Going into Iraq when it didn’t take a genius to recognize Saddam was just hot air and posturing showed a lack of understanding of the realities of war. We squandered our military strength and took our eyes off of Bin Laden and Afghanistan. Unfortunately, blind loyalty to the office of President (and that’s a laugh since Clinton didn’t get that loyalty) has to be measured against the American Constitution and American ideals. I’ve been very upfront about my beliefs that torture is against American ideals, economic boycotts hurt the poorest and therefore are against American ideals, ruling out diplomacy so we can display our might is against American ideals, so many chances to lead with America’s best foot forward squandered by rhetoric and saber rattling. Still, my in-house Republican can’t understand why anyone would think poorly of the Bush administration and the havic they have wrought in the Middle East and Asia. Yes, I hope Obama wins. Even if he wins by a landslide, I hope he realizes that before any liberal agenda is pursued he must return America to the American way – reverse most of the executive rules and signing statements issued over the last eight years, rein in the wiretapping of Americans, initiate talks with our neighbors in South America, seek a diplomatic solution in Afghanistan, allow Iraq to determine it’s future without our military there in any capacity, close Quantanimo and release all prisoners including accepting into America those who can’t go home, repair our relationship with Russia. If he can do all of that and deal with the current economic swamp we have dived into, it will be enough for the first four years. We can reconsider where we stand and who we want for President in 2012.

]]> By: Pug http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/01/how-obama-is-going-to-win-demoralize/comment-page-1/#comment-75800 Pug Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:54:47 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=8546#comment-75800 Poor Republicans. They have simply been overwhelmed by the mystical powers of Obama and, of course, the media. That would be the same all-powerful liberal media that has ushered in seven Republican administrations in the last ten elections. My prediction is that if Obama wins it is because more Americans vote for him. They'll vote for him because they are sick and tired of Republicans and the lousy job they have done for last eight years. The Repbulcian's problem is not simply at the presidential level. They are also going to be thrown out of Congress in record numbers. At some point Republicans might want to quit looking for scapegoats in the media and elsewhere and and simply look in the mirror if they want to see their problem clearly. Poor Republicans. They have simply been overwhelmed by the mystical powers of Obama and, of course, the media. That would be the same all-powerful liberal media that has ushered in seven Republican administrations in the last ten elections.

My prediction is that if Obama wins it is because more Americans vote for him. They’ll vote for him because they are sick and tired of Republicans and the lousy job they have done for last eight years.

The Repbulcian’s problem is not simply at the presidential level. They are also going to be thrown out of Congress in record numbers. At some point Republicans might want to quit looking for scapegoats in the media and elsewhere and and simply look in the mirror if they want to see their problem clearly.

]]> By: Michael Merritt http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/01/how-obama-is-going-to-win-demoralize/comment-page-1/#comment-75790 Michael Merritt Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:17:58 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=8546#comment-75790 There's a funny thing about keeping saying someone going to win. It has a way of coming back to prove you wrong. Obama found this out in the primaries when everyone said Clinton's loss was inevitable. There’s a funny thing about keeping saying someone going to win. It has a way of coming back to prove you wrong.

Obama found this out in the primaries when everyone said Clinton’s loss was inevitable.

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