The Conservative Debate: Moderate Conservatism Tried?

November 4th, 2008 By: Michael van der Galien | Tags:

For years now, George W. Bush has been portrayed as the ultimate far-right conservative. Bush, his critics said, was the true right-winger who wanted to ‘reshape’ the country, based on traditional conservative principles.

Ross Douthat, however, remembers everyone that Bush was in fact the ‘reform Republican’ so many Republicans say is needed today. Bush was a ‘compassionate’ conservatism who did not want to make government smaller but “stronger.” He wanted to “reform Washington,” not the nation. He would accept that the federal government played an important role in education and health care, and would work to let it do its job better, possibly by increasing its size.

And then, eight years later, Bush’s kind of conservatism has universally been declared a failure. It has dealt with some, but certainly not all problems or even most. The U.S. deficit has increased, the U.S. is engaged in a war in a country far, far away, and voters are likely to help Democrats win in a landslide Tuesday. All, for a large part, due to Bush.

Douthat goes on to say that he keeps track of the debate among conservatives about the future (direction) of their movement, but explains that he is not as involved in it as he ought to be, simply because he lacks passion.

I think the deeper reason for my political gloom has to do with something that Jonah Goldberg raised in our bloggingheads chat about conservatism – namely, the sense that the era now passing represented a great opportunity to put into practice the sort of center-right politics that I’d like to see from the Republican Party, and that by failing the way it did the Bush Administration may have cut the ground out from under my own ideas before I’d even figured out exactly what they were.  As I said to Jonah. I have all sorts of disagreements with the specific ways President Bush attempted to renovate the GOP, on the level of policy and philosophy alike. But the fact remains that the renovation Bush attempted wasan effort to respond to some of the political, social and economc trends that Reihan and I discuss in Grand New Party – and those of us who want a reformed conservatism have to recognize Bush’s attempt, and reckon with his failure.

This is by no means a new insight, but it’s one that’s been brought home to me by the looming end of the Bush Era and the struggles of the McCain campaign. Conservatism in the United States faces a series of extremely knotty problems at the moment. How do you restrain the welfare state at a time when the entitlements we have are broadly popular, and yet their design puts them on a glide path to insolvency? How do you respond to the socioeconomic trends – wage stagnation, social immobility, rising health care costs, family breakdown, and so forth – that are slowly undermining support for the Reaganite model of low-tax capitalism? How do you sell socially-conservative ideas to a moderate middle that often perceives social conservatism as intolerant? How do you transform an increasingly white party with a history of benefiting from racially-charged issues into a party that can win majorities in an increasingly multiracial America?  etc.

Watching the McCain campaign, you’d barely even know that these problems exist, let alone that conservatives have any idea what to do about them. But there were people in the Bush Administration who did understand the situation facing the Right, and set out to wrestle with these challenges – and as a result, George W. Bush had a real chance (especially given the political capital he enjoyed after 9/11) to establish a model for center-right governance in the post-Reagan era. That he failed is by no means the greatest tragedy of the last eight years, but it is a tragedy nonetheless – for conservatives, and for the country.

I’m not counseling despair here: There were people in 1976 who thought Richard Nixon had irrevocably squandered the chance to build a new right-of-center majority, and looked how that turned out. But for now, as America goes to the polls, I find myself stuck thinking about the lost opportunities of the last eight years, and the possibility that they may not come round again.

Douthat’s words are logical and they will sound familiar to many conservative bloggers and pundits. Patrick Ruffini, Jon Henke, John Hawkins and others still seem to be passionate about conservatism and politics, but many others are not. Even I, an outsider, am tired of the political debate which never seems to go anywhere.

But – what Douthat forgets to keep in mind, I think, is that the real reason for his boredom is the length of the presidential campaign. You see many bloggers and pundits live up now, precisely because the elections are just one day off. After tomorrow, we all know that it is over, that a new president will take office, at which time we can analyze more, report ‘normal’ news, and debate the issues. So, suddenly you see many become more passionate; we’re not passionate about tomorrow’s election, we’re passionate about the fact that the election signals the end of this draining campaign.

After the election it will be business as usual. Democrats will rule. They will pursue many policies, both domestic and foreign, (moderate) conservatives agree with (to a degree), and far more they do not agree with. They will then start talking about the issues again, articulating alternatives views and plans. The political debate will focus on issues and on ‘issue-related’ news.

We will all be passionate again, fairly soon even I predict.

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  1. c3
    November 4th, 2008 at 01:16
    Reply | Quote | #1

    Well I’m not a conservative but I have ideas for the Republican party that might apply to these new conservatives.
    1) Compassion unfortunately is limited by budget. And long-term debt will lead to the opposite reaction to compassion (i.e. the younger generations feeling no obligation to the older generations living on a bankrupt social security system) so financial discipline will always be key
    2) Understand those under thirty and figure out what of the conservative message is appealing and go with it. They will eventually vote.
    3) Immigration has been historically a net plus for the US. Encourage it. We need the workers to support our economy and our elders.
    4) Stop with the mantra of “no new taxes” Still value a low taxation policy and always look to reduce the size of government but do what businesses do, consider not only reducing expense but increasing revenue.
    5) Don’t condescend or underappreciate those SoCons. And stop assuming the “loudmouths” speak for them.
    6) Put on a hard sell with black voters and hispanic voters. Stop being so WHITE!
    7) Take the business of running government seriously. You may want it smaller but make sure it works.

  2. Interested
    November 4th, 2008 at 02:45
    Reply | Quote | #2

    Well lets see CS

    #1, redundant thought
    #2, I think most people in their post-30 years would recognize their pre-30 years as being – impetuous
    #3, I agree, and wish the Democrats has taken action here.
    #4, The “mantra” is just fine and quite valid
    #5, can’t help but think this is an irrelevant thought
    #6, Excuse me?
    #7, When has large government run efficiently and effectively

    Sorry, but you want to make conservatives into liberals. It won’t happen, nor should it.

  3. c3
    November 4th, 2008 at 04:46
    Reply | Quote | #3

    Interested;
    I appreciate the feedback. Please understand these were “off the cuff” remarks.

    And that final remark certainly encourages this once independent, now Republican to stay in “the big tent”.

    REbuttals:
    #1. Don’t understand.
    #2 My point was the now standard Republican assumption that when they hit their 30’s they’ll “come around”
    #3 Give me a break. The Dems had a party watching Republicans have their very public family feud.
    #4 Its a “paralyzing”mantra
    #5 Speaking as a moderate “values voters” I’ve certainly felt the “well of course you’ll vote Republican”. So maybe irrelevant to you
    #6 Yes, you heard me right. The hispanic vote was one of the great missed opportunities of the past 8 years.
    #7 As often as large corporations have. (And by that I mean sometimes). FEMA was poorly run in ‘05. Gonzalez didn’t know how to manage the Justice Department. And this from a President with an MBA!

  4. Interested
    November 4th, 2008 at 05:00
    Reply | Quote | #4

    Re Rebuttels

    #1, it’s redundant
    #2, and probably accurate
    #3, Break? The Dem’s could have done it, simple
    #4, Wrong
    #5, whichever
    #6, Back to Excuse me – you can explain yourself here.
    #7, okay, assuming your rebuttal is accurate, where was your point supposed to be

  5. c3
    November 4th, 2008 at 15:53
    Reply | Quote | #5

    So Interested I can only ask, are you “interested” in a “Big Tent” Republican Party or “moral high ground, permanent minority Republican Party”?

  6. C Stanley
    November 4th, 2008 at 16:20
    Reply | Quote | #6

    FWIW:
    #1 I was a bit lost but if you were saying that fiscal discipline needs to be foremost, c3, I agree with this (and agree that the GOP lost its way)
    #2 We shouldn’t be dismissive of youth vote but Interested’s point and the CW is reality IMO- the liberals will generally always win that demographic except when there have been recent obvious liberal missteps (eg, the young Reagan supporters came out because they experienced the mistakes of Carter.) IOW, conservatives can’t hope to convince young voters in the abstract of the follies of liberalism, they have to witness it.
    #3 on the immigration fight, c3 is right that the GOP gets the blame because they were in power and couldn’t mend their differences on this issue. Interested is right that the Dems could have stepped in, but the party that’s out of power never gets the blame for the divisions of the majority party (oh, unless it’s the GOP that’s out of power and there’s an urgent need to pass an economic bill that the majority leader won’t pass without GOP support ;-) )
    #4 Cut tax mantra is definitely too simplistic. Sometimes cutting taxes makes sense, sometimes not, and certain types of taxes should be cut rather than others. c3 though, I think you’re being too simplistic too to equate tax increase with revenue increase, since some tax cuts historically do prove to increase revenue.
    #5 Agree with c3 about the condescending attitude toward socons. Three legged stool and all of that.
    #6 Agree about Hispanic opportunity missed- but see also #3, immigration debacle. As for blacks, you can’t make the party more black if blacks won’t join the party- the problem here isn’t lack of trying because all attempts are rebuffed. McCain opened his campaign trying to reach out to minorities and was ignored. The few black conservatives have to constantly deal with ostracism, derisive Uncle Tom comments, and even threats.
    #7 I’m more with c3 on this one. Small govt vs. large govt is too black and white- voters want to hear about good govt vs. wasteful govt.

    One thing that’s becoming clear to me is that the Democratic party is becoming skilled at winning the war of rhetoric by taking more nuanced positions and coming across as the more serious party simply because of the nuance vs. black and white thinking (even if the nuanced positions aren’t correct, the voters don’t seem to understand well enough to see that but they do think the ideas sound more well thought out.) And, they (this one goes directly to Obama’s political skills) are learning how to diffuse the arguments by reframing and reframing the terminology. The GOP needs to learn (quickly) how to do the same in defense of the more conservative positions on issues.

  7. Interested
    November 4th, 2008 at 16:24
    Reply | Quote | #7

    c3 :
    So Interested I can only ask, are you “interested” in a “Big Tent” Republican Party or “moral high ground, permanent minority Republican Party”?

    Neither, you are showing quite the narrow view for someone who at least says one shouldn’t be narrow viewed.

  8. Grewgills
    November 4th, 2008 at 19:21
    Reply | Quote | #8

    As a left leaning voter I can only hope that the Republicans follow the advice of those who say they moved too far to the center.

    “you can’t make the party more black if blacks won’t join the party- the problem here isn’t lack of trying because all attempts are rebuffed.”
    To get more African Americans on board would require actual changes in policy and giving up on the southern strategy. Neither has yet happened.

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