Conservative bloggers go to war

can't we all just get along

It seems that I almost missed a flame war in the conservative blogosphere. Charles Johnson, of Little Green Footballs, does not get along any longer with Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugs, nor with Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch. It now seems that neoconservative bloggers in general have joined the fun: they’re on the side of Spencer and Geller, and busily condemning Johnson.

Although Johnson is certainly right to call out racists, xenophobes, and generalizing religions in general, I disagree with his take on Glenn Beck. I don’t think Beck hurts the conservative movement as much as he helps it. Every movement has its fringes, its more radical and less rational talking heads. Beck is a prime libertarian example of this rule. There are others on the liberal side of the political equation, however. Keith Olbermann comes to mind. Yet, you never hear liberal bloggers go after Olbermann and his ilk. The reason is simple: he may not be the most stable person in the world, but eating your own (when they do not engage in hate speech, racism, etc.) is not just useless, it is counterproductive. Additionally, there are many voters who listen to these people, and who can be relied upon to volunteer when campaign season arrives.

Now don’t get me wrong. I think Beck is crazy, or he’s at least pretending to be. But he’s not causing anyone any harm, he is not dangerous. Xenophobes, racists, white supremacists, and so on are dangerous.  Conservatives should be careful not to be associated with them. Johnson has proved to be great at warning conservatives for such radical groups and individuals. However, Beck is not one of them. He is  an extremely libertarian talk show host who rants about the constantly increasing size of the federal government. If you’re libertarian, you can’t possibly be happy with Obama. And libertarians tend to vote Republican – their votes matter.

But unlike some, they do not plan to round up opponents, people of other faiths, those with a different skin color either. Rather, a libertarian like Beck wants maximum freedom. That may not be realistic today, but it is not dangerous either.

Let the man do his thing.

Other than that, Donald Douglas and others should stop going after Johnson (and people like Rick Moran who seems to agree more than disagree with Johnson these days). He is one of the leading conservative members of the blogosphere. He’s anti-Islamic extremism, anti-terrorism, pro-tolerance, anti-hate, anti-racism, anti-xenophobia, pro-conservative values, economic and social freedom. He belongs in the conservative movement, and he was right to warn the so-called “anti-Jihad” and the “conservative” blogospheres against the dangers of racist movements, both in the U.S. and Europe.

Stop waging war on the man, and embrace him for what he is: a great conservative blogger, who understands that the war on extremism isn’t a war on all those who belong to a certain religion (in this case Islam), who believes extremism and intolerance of all kinds have to be opposed, and who’s able to defend Western values and conservative principles in a rational, tolerant and calm demeanor. We need more, not less of those.

Do not attack each other when not absolutely necessary (because someone is crossing the line of decency): you’re blowing up your own movement.

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  1. Americaneocon
    April 11th, 2009 at 18:04
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    Thanks for the link, Michael!

    I haven’t gone after Rick Moran yet, LOL!

  2. C Stanley
    April 11th, 2009 at 18:08
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    We need to remember Reagan’s 80% rule.

  3. Eric Dondero
    April 11th, 2009 at 18:31
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    Geller and Beck are hardcore libertarians. Spencer has used the term on occasion, as well. For Johnson to attack libertarian Republicans, it opens up a possible fissure between conservatives and libertarians. And we don’t need that, right now, when we face two great Islamo-Fascist threates; one from abroad (Bin Laden, Hamas, Euro-Islamists, Somalis, et.al.), and one domestically – Barack Hussein Obama.

    Eric Dondero, Publisher
    Libertarian Republican blog

  4. Brainded
    April 11th, 2009 at 18:46
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    Its all out war. The left hates beyond all imagination the right and the right hates beyond all imagination the left.

    That has always been my point when I post my satirical posts laced and oozing with mock paranoia.

    See its no longer about politicians. Its all about a philosophy hating a philosophy. Hate is running amcuk in America. We are doomed.

    In all honesty I believe that the internet is ruining America because people who used to never be able to face off against each other can now do so with a click of a button and with almost zero repercussions.

    If someone called me the names Ive been called on the internet and they did that to my face I would knock them out. Yes Im a fighter. Yes I could do it and yes I WOULD do it.

    The internet is the ruin of the world…..mark my words.

  5. c3
    April 13th, 2009 at 16:48
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    Eric;
    I just have to ask this: Why would any label, even “Libertarian” excuse outrageous words. If Keith Olberman called someone a “fascist” and then hid behind the word “journalist” or “progressive” would it make the harshness of the words any less? It’s funny, I have some libertarian tendencies but I’m dumbfounded by the seeming “protective shield” that the label “libertarian” is supposed to give folks.

  6. Brainded
    April 14th, 2009 at 17:51
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    I don’t call Obama a fascist. I call him a patsy for a democratic party and progressive movement that is rapidly swinging to fascist talking points.

    They simply want to destroy the 2 party system in America and they want to be in complete and total control of what we talk about, think about, produce in this country with no one telling them no.

    Capitalism is under attack which perhaps right now it should be but with NO opposition to maintain equilibrium the chances for extreme policy are very high. Look at that GAWDAYUM bill to take bonuses away from AIG executives. Absurd but it worked in that 100’s of quality people have abandoned AIG in their moment of need and are moving on to jobs that dont treat them as if they are criminals.

    Punitive. Everything about America right now is punitive.

    Obama as a fascist? No……he’s nothing more then a patsy for the progressive left. He is the puppet. They are the puppetmasters.

  7. Bob
    April 15th, 2009 at 07:10
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    Atlas Shrugs and Jihad Watch are written by conspiracy theorist idiots.

    Trust me, I’m definitely siding with Little Green Footballs on this one. He’s a true Republican. We need to stop letting xenophobes, religious zealots, and anti-pragmatist conservatives take over the Republican party.

  8. Michael van der Galien
    April 15th, 2009 at 11:05
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    ‘Trust me, I’m definitely siding with Little Green Footballs on this one. He’s a true Republican. We need to stop letting xenophobes, religious zealots, and anti-pragmatist conservatives take over the Republican party.’

    I agree with you.

  9. EatonsRevenge
    April 17th, 2009 at 06:41
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    @ Bob and Michael van der Galien

    In what way is Jihadwatch “written by conspiracy theorist idiots.”? Could you supply me with an example?

    I however can say that Charles Johnson and his ilk are part of the reason the conservative movement is fractured in America. This “my way or the highway” approach they have used, in which any disagreement to the LGF line is attacked in the most vengeful, disgraceful, and in a very personal way, has done great harm. To put it plain sirs, Charles Johnson is a disgrace. I am a classical liberal (of the enlightenment), I accept the Theory of Evolution, I don’t much care for people like Ron Paul, I am very pro-science, but I am dedicated to the principle of freedom, liberty, and most important of all debate. CJ seems not to want debate of any kind, but instead bans anyone for the SLIGHTEST disagreement with him on ANYTHING. It does not matter what the disagreement is about either. You can say it is his site, and he can do whatever he wants, and this is true, but don’t hold yourself up as the model of free speech, the defender of liberty, and as the “true republican”, when you instead of debating people in a honorable manner resort to name calling, trash talking, and in general acting like tyrannical thug. People like him are dangerous, because they think that they have all the answers in life, and that everyone on this earth must march in lock step with them. Well I am sorry, but no true American does that.

    Conservatives must focus on the big issues such as on the defense of liberty, the simplification of government, on the dangers of Islamic tyranny and what to do about it, and on the economic situation (which can be solved by getting back to basic capitalistic principles). LGF does not deal with those subjects anymore, therefore they have become useless, and CJ gets what he deserves.

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