David Kilcullen: Pakistan is in danger of collapse within months

April 12th, 2009 By: Michael van der Galien | Tags: , , , ,

It has been a while since we last heard doom scenarios about Pakistan, so it seems to me all of you will appreciate me linking to this piece at the Sydney Morning Herald.

PAKISTAN could collapse within months, one of the more influential counter-insurgency voices in Washington says.

The warning comes as the US scrambles to redeploy its military forces and diplomats in an attempt to stem rising violence and anarchy in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

“We have to face the fact that if Pakistan collapses it will dwarf anything we have seen so far in whatever we’re calling the war on terror now,” said David Kilcullen, a former Australian Army officer who was a specialist adviser for the Bush administration and is now a consultant to the Obama White House.

“You just can’t say that you’re not going to worry about al-Qaeda taking control of Pakistan and its nukes,” he said…

“Pakistan has 173 million people and 100 nuclear weapons, an army which is bigger than the American army, and the headquarters of al-Qaeda sitting in two-thirds of the country which the Government does not control.”

That’s always great to hear, isn’t it?

All snarks aside, Pakistan truly is one of the most troubled countries in the world. It is not merely in danger of collapsing – and it has been like this for years – but it could very well destabilize the entire region. The Taliban and Al Qaeda both found refuge in the country’s tribal region. If the central government can no longer hold the country together, you can only imagine what these terrorist and extremist groups will do.

They will spread their zone of influence – if you think they are important in the region now, wait until a power vacuum exists in Pakistan itself. This is truly a nightmare: Pakistan is not merely powerful and big, it also has nuclear weapons.

You have to wonder, however, whether there truly is any danger of Al Qaeda and / or the Taliban getting their hands on the country’s weapons of mass destruction. As Newshoggers‘ Steve Hynd told me in an e-mail (also be sure to read his own post on this matter), ‘It reads to me like Kilcullen is hyperventilating somewhat when he says that “You can’t have al-Qaeda in control of Pakistan’s missiles”, but [it is] a very interesting interview nonetheless.’ He continued: ‘You have to wonder about the logic of being scared that any country run by an army even bigger than America’s is in danger of being defeated or even de-nuked by a rag-tag mob of militants…and if so, how exactly is US military might *next door* going to be able to do anything about it? The truth is, the Taliban et al have exactly the control of territory the Pakistani military allows them…all the bits that historically they’ve not seen as worth controlling themselves.’

Still, Pakistan is in trouble, Steve agreed, also because the country’s military refuses to take orders from the civilian leadership in Islamabad.

Another interesting point Kilcullen makes in the interview, is that he is less worried about Afghanistan than about Pakistan. Afghanistan is small potatoes compared to its big brother. In the former the allied forces “understand” what is going on, they only have trouble doing something about it. In the latter, however, it is incredibly difficult to understand the situation, let alone come up with workable solutions to its problems.

Share and Enjoy:
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Technorati
  • SphereIt
  • NewsVine
  • TailRank
  • Reddit
  • StumbleUpon

This website uses IntenseDebate comments, but they are not currently loaded because either your browser doesn't support JavaScript, or they didn't load fast enough.

  1. Polimom
    April 13th, 2009 at 05:54
    Reply | Quote | #1

    Had a big discussion on just this subject today w/ some folks I respect highly. The general consensus was that if this comes to pass, India is likely to ‘handle’ the Pakistani problem about the way most folks think Israel will handle Iran.

  2. UNRR
    April 13th, 2009 at 12:45
    Reply | Quote | #2

    This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 4/13/2009, at The Unreligious Right

Comments are closed.

PoliGazette Comments Policy

PoliGazette encourages comments from all viewpoints, especially those that disagree. Comments submitted must, however, adhere to the following standards. Comments that violate these standards may be edited or deleted without notice at the sole discretion of the editors. Commenters who repeatedly or egregiously violate these standards or who attempt to argue publicly with editors regarding the comments policy may be banned from commenting further.

(1) Comments should address the substantive content of the post. Comments that repeatedly or blatantly misrepresent the content of the post or of others' comments are not welcome. Comments that respond to something other than which the contributor or commenter may have said are irrelevant and should not be posted.

(2) Comments should avoid vulgarity as well as racial, ethnic, religious, or sexual bigotry.

(3) Comments should not personally attack the character, personal integrity, or professional reputation of any PoliGazette contributor or of other commenters.

(4) Comments should reflect the contributions of the commenters themselves and should not include extensive cut-and-paste reproductions of others' words except insofar as necessary to supplement the commenter's own arguments. Link spam, trackback spam, and propaganda spam will be instantly deleted.

(5) Public figures are considered open to all substantive criticism of their policies and statements. Comments that present objectively false factual information about public figures (i.e. "Obama is a Muslim") or that attack public figures by attacking their families are not welcome. Comments that merely repeat slogans for or against a candidate without engaging in substantive comment are not welcome.

Questions or challenges to these policies or their application should be directed to the editors by email only.