Yours is a song I’ve heard many, many times. I just wished you would speak up about the insane deficit. I do not begrudge the left their wish list. I just want to be able to pay for it.

The silence of the lambs if you will goes way beyond Gitmo. Pulling a General and claiming he is moderate is nothing more then a bait and switch tactic. How do you know the General is Moderate? Has he voiced political views that would lead you to this conclusion?

As for Gates I suppose he could be called a moderate however One or two or three moderates in a sea of moderates does not change the basic tenet that the Moderates are silent on the overwhelming majority of Obama’s policies which are far left wish list redux.

There are always exceptions to every rule. There are conservatives opposed to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan of which I am one. That does not mean conservatives are opposed to the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I submit that the moderates whom the democrats woo’d to their side in 2008 are beginning to see with eyes wide open as the truth becomes hard to hide in a sea of donkeys. They are silent for now. How long that continues is up to the Donkeys that run the show and march to the beat of Michael Moore and Moveon.org.

Petraeus and Gates saying close Guantanamo are parrotting the FAR LEFT position.

Wow. Is it really your position that Secretary Gates and General Petraeus are merely parroting the far left rather than stating there considered views? Would your opinion be different if you agreed with what they said? Is the JAG core also a sock puppet for the far left?

Numbers in polls suggest that many moderates are split on the subject.

If moderates are split then how is it a far left position? Is the inverse (where moderates are also split) then a far right position?

These are emotionally charged issues that elicit strong responses. Unfortunately our political dialogue tends to place these types of issues into a left v right dichotomy regardless of the fit. It is a trap that many if not most fall into and it does not add clarity or substance, it obscures both. If you oppose closing Gitmo argue the case on its merits rather than simply dropping it into a L or R box that you can then defend.

See this is what the moderates are starting to see thru. The question will be if they see thru it soon enough to put some GOP numbers back in the senate and house in order to curtail a party run amuck.

Regardless of the polling to characterize the positions of Secretary Gates (under Bush), General Petraeus, and the JAG corps as far left positions does not seem valid to me.

You brought those up….NOT ME. There are people on the right who hold those positions. Yet I will repeat for the umpteenth time as you try to deflect the debate away from my position……MODERATES are NOT calling out Obama on far left issues. They are silent.

Petraeus and Gates saying close Guantanamo are parrotting the FAR LEFT position. Not a moderate position. Numbers in polls suggest that many moderates are split on the subject.

YOu can continue to spin it how you want Jeb but the facts are becoming more and more apparent that Moderates are beginning to see with their eyes open and the far left is getting more desperate to get their agenda rammed thru congress because they know that the majority of Americans DO NOT agree with their programs.

A USA TODAY/Gallup Poll released Tuesday found that those surveyed oppose the closing of Guantanamo by more than 2-1.

That is the way the poll was reported. I went to the Gallup website and looked at the questions. The question with 2-1 (65% v 32%) is as follows,

As you may know, since 2001, the United States has held people from other countries who are suspected of being terrorists in a prison at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. Do you think the United should — or should not — close this prison and move some of the prisoners to US prisons?

The 3-1 question (74% v 23%) was as follows,

Suppose the prison at Guantanamo is closed. Would you favor or oppose moving some of those prisoners to a prison in your state?

The questions asked in the polling and the representation of the poll in the USA Today story do not match.
2-1 oppose moving detainees to the US and 3-1 oppose detainees to their state. The reporting on the poll results by USA Today was not accurate.

Other polling, asking about closing Guantanamo only, (CBS/NYT, AP, and others) has the public evenly split.

Regardless of the polling to characterize the positions of Secretary Gates (under Bush), General Petraeus, and the JAG corps as far left positions does not seem valid to me.

Thus those that are growing weary of the failure to close Gitmo or pull out of Iraq are going to be that 32 percent in the above poll that are most likely going to overwhelmingly lean far left.

That poll did not address Iraq. The timetable for pulling out of Iraq is a Bush policy continued by Obama. This is also a policy supported by Petraeus and Gates. Given that I find it difficult to characterize this as a far left position.

BTW Fear mongering about letting out terrorists into your neighborhood can certainly move polling. I think the recent NIMBY statements by politicians of both parties on this issue has a lot to do with this very recent (~6mos) movement in polling, but YMMV.