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	<title>Comments on: European Elections: Left Takes a Big Hit</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/06/european-elections-left-takes-a-big-hit/comment-page-1/#comment-96112</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying to educate myself on the reasons for these election results.  People here in the states are either ignorant or uninterested.  My question is does this affect the U.S. in any significant way?  Is the center right in Europe farther left than the center right in America?  If so, are the results in this election in in any way a precursor to what may happen in our midterm elections next year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to educate myself on the reasons for these election results.  People here in the states are either ignorant or uninterested.  My question is does this affect the U.S. in any significant way?  Is the center right in Europe farther left than the center right in America?  If so, are the results in this election in in any way a precursor to what may happen in our midterm elections next year?</p>
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		<title>By: PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; A Few Thoughts on the EU Results</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliBlog: A Rough Draft of my Thoughts &#187; A Few Thoughts on the EU Results</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] example, I have to take exception with the following conclusion drawn by Michael van der Galien over the weekend: European voters realize that not American capitalism, nor free markets, but [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kastanj</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/06/european-elections-left-takes-a-big-hit/comment-page-1/#comment-95892</link>
		<dc:creator>Kastanj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ireland, Greece, Spain, Bulgaria, Hungary, Germany: government parties had poor results. Not so in Poland, Italy and Luxembourg. Sarkozy&#039;s party also remained strong.

Apart from this, the effects will not be great considering the lack of any block falling behind or passing by another. The anti-immigrant/nationalist/anti-immigration are worrying but didn&#039;t make as much headway as the greens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ireland, Greece, Spain, Bulgaria, Hungary, Germany: government parties had poor results. Not so in Poland, Italy and Luxembourg. Sarkozy&#8217;s party also remained strong.</p>
<p>Apart from this, the effects will not be great considering the lack of any block falling behind or passing by another. The anti-immigrant/nationalist/anti-immigration are worrying but didn&#8217;t make as much headway as the greens.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael van der Galien</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/06/european-elections-left-takes-a-big-hit/comment-page-1/#comment-95891</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael van der Galien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeb: &quot;whomever is in power.&quot; Not true: the leftist opposition also &lt;em&gt;lost&lt;/em&gt;. Countries where the left was in the government: left lost. Countries where the left was in the opposition: left lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeb: &#8220;whomever is in power.&#8221; Not true: the leftist opposition also <em>lost</em>. Countries where the left was in the government: left lost. Countries where the left was in the opposition: left lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Kastanj</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/06/european-elections-left-takes-a-big-hit/comment-page-1/#comment-95889</link>
		<dc:creator>Kastanj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, calling them far-right is not fair on the right-wing side of European politics considering many of the parties are so obsessively anti-immigrant that they&#039;ll take on any set of political positions that mesh with their goals and sad little dreams, left-wing or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, calling them far-right is not fair on the right-wing side of European politics considering many of the parties are so obsessively anti-immigrant that they&#8217;ll take on any set of political positions that mesh with their goals and sad little dreams, left-wing or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Kastanj</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/06/european-elections-left-takes-a-big-hit/comment-page-1/#comment-95888</link>
		<dc:creator>Kastanj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-95887&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-95887&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jay&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
One can only hope this is a sign of what is to come for the 2010 midterm elections in the United States.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 
What, that a bunch of far-right wackos make huge gains? The only losing side in the elections was the left, but there were no real winners, especially considering the gains made by emotional and divisive lumpen who tell jews to &quot;play with their circumcised little tails&quot; (Krisztina Morvai) or think you can say whatever you want about Romes and Muslims just because you&#039;re feeling scared and resentful in general. Actually, there was a winning side - green parties. I&#039;m guessing we&#039;ll be rounding up car owners and CEOs pretty soon if the prophecies are true*.

As for America, I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing right-wing gains in the elections, provided the right wing in America wasn&#039;t represented by the GOP in its current state.

*They&#039;re not.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-95887" rel="nofollow">Jay</a> :</strong><br />
One can only hope this is a sign of what is to come for the 2010 midterm elections in the United States.
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<p>What, that a bunch of far-right wackos make huge gains? The only losing side in the elections was the left, but there were no real winners, especially considering the gains made by emotional and divisive lumpen who tell jews to &#8220;play with their circumcised little tails&#8221; (Krisztina Morvai) or think you can say whatever you want about Romes and Muslims just because you&#8217;re feeling scared and resentful in general. Actually, there was a winning side &#8211; green parties. I&#8217;m guessing we&#8217;ll be rounding up car owners and CEOs pretty soon if the prophecies are true*.</p>
<p>As for America, I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing right-wing gains in the elections, provided the right wing in America wasn&#8217;t represented by the GOP in its current state.</p>
<p>*They&#8217;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can only hope this is a sign of what is to come for the 2010 midterm elections in the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can only hope this is a sign of what is to come for the 2010 midterm elections in the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Kastanj</title>
		<link>http://www.poligazette.com/2009/06/06/european-elections-left-takes-a-big-hit/comment-page-1/#comment-95842</link>
		<dc:creator>Kastanj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Left loses supports because it is not able to formulate a coherent vision on the integration of non-Western muslim minorities into society.&quot;

I agree, even though I think this isn&#039;t a strong reason to not support them, especially considering the general ideation of the right on this issue is also terribly weak and vague. If one is worried about negative side-effects of immigration, I can&#039;t think of one side that deserves one&#039;s support.

&quot;European voters realize that not American capitalism, nor free markets, but progressive, leftist policies are to blame for today’s severe economic crisis. Capitalism and free markets were declared dead alright, but not by voters but by journalists, most of whom are socialists.&quot;

Sitting here on my blimp, watching a hippo fly by against the green backdrop of a dual sunset, I must say this is a very apt description of the world.

Meanwhile, I still think that the political sides both in America and Europe are far too similar to be able to shift responsibility entirely, and I also think you&#039;ll agree that globalization and right-wing theories on international economics have been dominant for a while. I fail to see how the loathsome progressives could have messed up the current situation, and I also can&#039;t see how a general right-wing approach could be of any help. 

James Cameron, as an example, is truly an ideological hack, willing to embrace economic theories that have been tried and found wanting by right-wingers before him. Even Bush the elder has called Cameron&#039;s ideas - which include the Laffer curve, drawn on a napkin by a derided and discredited &quot;economist&quot; booted from teh Nixon administration - &quot;voodoo economics&quot;. The truth is that, at least in America, cutting the top rate of taxes is bad for the economy while raising it is good for the economy. Cameron will espouse any theory, no matter how discredited or incompatible with reality, as long as it allows him to lower the taxes of his ilk. He is as credible and useful in economic matters as Guevara, but the British media has learned to agree with the right&#039;s own version of political correctness and presents him as a regular guy, someone you&#039;d want to have a beer with. History tells me those kind of politicians should be launched into the sun.

In a country like Sweden, were there is wide agreement on the general outlines of the economic model and the level of support we should offer the needy, I have no problem voting for a center-right party if they argue their case. Even more so if there aren&#039;t any disgusting and plebeian social conservative agendas snuggling up to the economic right-wingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Left loses supports because it is not able to formulate a coherent vision on the integration of non-Western muslim minorities into society.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree, even though I think this isn&#8217;t a strong reason to not support them, especially considering the general ideation of the right on this issue is also terribly weak and vague. If one is worried about negative side-effects of immigration, I can&#8217;t think of one side that deserves one&#8217;s support.</p>
<p>&#8220;European voters realize that not American capitalism, nor free markets, but progressive, leftist policies are to blame for today’s severe economic crisis. Capitalism and free markets were declared dead alright, but not by voters but by journalists, most of whom are socialists.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sitting here on my blimp, watching a hippo fly by against the green backdrop of a dual sunset, I must say this is a very apt description of the world.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I still think that the political sides both in America and Europe are far too similar to be able to shift responsibility entirely, and I also think you&#8217;ll agree that globalization and right-wing theories on international economics have been dominant for a while. I fail to see how the loathsome progressives could have messed up the current situation, and I also can&#8217;t see how a general right-wing approach could be of any help. </p>
<p>James Cameron, as an example, is truly an ideological hack, willing to embrace economic theories that have been tried and found wanting by right-wingers before him. Even Bush the elder has called Cameron&#8217;s ideas &#8211; which include the Laffer curve, drawn on a napkin by a derided and discredited &#8220;economist&#8221; booted from teh Nixon administration &#8211; &#8220;voodoo economics&#8221;. The truth is that, at least in America, cutting the top rate of taxes is bad for the economy while raising it is good for the economy. Cameron will espouse any theory, no matter how discredited or incompatible with reality, as long as it allows him to lower the taxes of his ilk. He is as credible and useful in economic matters as Guevara, but the British media has learned to agree with the right&#8217;s own version of political correctness and presents him as a regular guy, someone you&#8217;d want to have a beer with. History tells me those kind of politicians should be launched into the sun.</p>
<p>In a country like Sweden, were there is wide agreement on the general outlines of the economic model and the level of support we should offer the needy, I have no problem voting for a center-right party if they argue their case. Even more so if there aren&#8217;t any disgusting and plebeian social conservative agendas snuggling up to the economic right-wingers.</p>
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		<title>By: Elections Herald New Political Landscape in Europe &#124; The Republic of Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elections Herald New Political Landscape in Europe &#124; The Republic of Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of things to come in the internal politics of European nations, as demonstrated by Saturday&#8217;s devastating defeat for Britain&#8217;s Labour Party in local council elections. Labour, which used to dominate local [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of things to come in the internal politics of European nations, as demonstrated by Saturday&#8217;s devastating defeat for Britain&#8217;s Labour Party in local council elections. Labour, which used to dominate local [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economic crisis means trouble for whoever is in power.  The left was in power when the crisis hit and so it is the left that suffered at the polls.  People should be cautious about reading too much more into this than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economic crisis means trouble for whoever is in power.  The left was in power when the crisis hit and so it is the left that suffered at the polls.  People should be cautious about reading too much more into this than that.</p>
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