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	<title>Comments on: A Legal Coup &#8212; The Variable Role Of The Military In Politics</title>
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	<description>Because Common Sense Transcends Distance</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, excellent analysis, Jason. In following this story the past few days, I&#039;ve noticed that your line of analysis has continued to inform and shape the ongoing debates.

Second, I appeciate the argument that Obama&#039;s approaches toward Iran and Honduras could be interpreted as undercutting the efforts of the Iranian regime and the Chavez axis to use anti-Americanism as a political &amp; strategic weapon (see: R. Amsterdam link above). However, any possible benefits accrued from the Obama administration&#039;s apology tour diplomacy are not achieved in isolation. If we want to evaluate the pros and cons of such an approach we&#039;d have to tally up not just one possible benefit, but all the plusses and minuses. For example, apology tour diplomacy could also undercut liberal elements within the Middle East and Latin America. Also, in the past, detente tended to strengthen the hands of thug dictators more than it weakened them. As an American thug once said, &quot;It&#039;s the economy, stupid.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, excellent analysis, Jason. In following this story the past few days, I&#8217;ve noticed that your line of analysis has continued to inform and shape the ongoing debates.</p>
<p>Second, I appeciate the argument that Obama&#8217;s approaches toward Iran and Honduras could be interpreted as undercutting the efforts of the Iranian regime and the Chavez axis to use anti-Americanism as a political &amp; strategic weapon (see: R. Amsterdam link above). However, any possible benefits accrued from the Obama administration&#8217;s apology tour diplomacy are not achieved in isolation. If we want to evaluate the pros and cons of such an approach we&#8217;d have to tally up not just one possible benefit, but all the plusses and minuses. For example, apology tour diplomacy could also undercut liberal elements within the Middle East and Latin America. Also, in the past, detente tended to strengthen the hands of thug dictators more than it weakened them. As an American thug once said, &#8220;It&#8217;s the economy, stupid.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Amsterdam: Why Obama Is a Nightmare for Ahmadinejad and Chávez&#160;&#124;&#160;Second Reagan Revolution</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Amsterdam: Why Obama Is a Nightmare for Ahmadinejad and Chávez&#160;&#124;&#160;Second Reagan Revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] policy (and to be fair, President Manuel Zelaya was attempting to dismantle the constitution and illegally extend his rule), the position taken by Washington is the very last thing that Mr. Chávez wanted to see. He likes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] policy (and to be fair, President Manuel Zelaya was attempting to dismantle the constitution and illegally extend his rule), the position taken by Washington is the very last thing that Mr. Chávez wanted to see. He likes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I guess if there were limits imposed on a president and Zelaya tried to breach them the resulting ousting is not so sinister.&lt;/i&gt;

There were, and he did. When the military refused to fill their usual role of monitoring the proposed referendum vote because the referendum itself was explicitly illegal under the Honduran constitution, Zelaya fired the head of the military and pushed on regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I guess if there were limits imposed on a president and Zelaya tried to breach them the resulting ousting is not so sinister.</i></p>
<p>There were, and he did. When the military refused to fill their usual role of monitoring the proposed referendum vote because the referendum itself was explicitly illegal under the Honduran constitution, Zelaya fired the head of the military and pushed on regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: Kastanj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kastanj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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I guess if there were limits imposed on a president and Zelaya tried to breach them the resulting ousting is not so sinister. He pushed his luck when trying to have a referendum on constitutional change and he has exploited the (understandable) resentment and suspicion towards the US to engender support, only to side-step democratic limitations himself. He seems to be a hypocrite and a man who lacks the basic humility one needs to expect, at least/especially from a politician. Chavez was indeed targeted by the CIA only some years ago (so there are precedents) but this coup seems to be of a different, acceptable kind.

I should point out that governments the world over have condemned the coup, but their criticism seems to be somewhat instinctual and not appreciating of all factors. I guess they would rather have non-physical solutions that would prevent any kind of power abuse or coagulation of undue power in the hands of the few. Still, Zelaya seemed incredibly stubborn, so it didn&#039;t make sense to wait considering he had been told by other democratic institutions to give it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess if there were limits imposed on a president and Zelaya tried to breach them the resulting ousting is not so sinister. He pushed his luck when trying to have a referendum on constitutional change and he has exploited the (understandable) resentment and suspicion towards the US to engender support, only to side-step democratic limitations himself. He seems to be a hypocrite and a man who lacks the basic humility one needs to expect, at least/especially from a politician. Chavez was indeed targeted by the CIA only some years ago (so there are precedents) but this coup seems to be of a different, acceptable kind.</p>
<p>I should point out that governments the world over have condemned the coup, but their criticism seems to be somewhat instinctual and not appreciating of all factors. I guess they would rather have non-physical solutions that would prevent any kind of power abuse or coagulation of undue power in the hands of the few. Still, Zelaya seemed incredibly stubborn, so it didn&#8217;t make sense to wait considering he had been told by other democratic institutions to give it up.</p>
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