Comments on: Palin’s New Book Confirms: McCain’s communications machine was incompetent. Liberal McCain staffers had a hostility to her base and thus misjudged it. May have cost them the election. http://www.poligazette.com/2009/09/30/palins-new-book-confirms-mccains-communications-machine-was-incompetent-liberal-mccain-staffers-had-a-hostility-to-her-base-and-thus-misjudged-it-may-have-cost-them-the-election/ Because Common Sense Transcends Distance Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:55:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Rachel http://www.poligazette.com/2009/09/30/palins-new-book-confirms-mccains-communications-machine-was-incompetent-liberal-mccain-staffers-had-a-hostility-to-her-base-and-thus-misjudged-it-may-have-cost-them-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-104885 Rachel Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:32:13 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=16370#comment-104885 The issue over Palin is the same issue the Republicans are dealing with now - moderates vs hard-liners. I personally view Palin as moderate right so it would make sense that the so-called RINOS would have it out for her. But the major issue that has deifies/demonizes her is that she almost helped beat Obama. It seems that the first African American presidential candidate was not going to lose unless something "great" shows up and here comes the governor of Alaska the possible first female Vice (ie substiutute) president. The major issue I have with the hardliners is they are more than for fiscal restraint. Many are social conservatives and see Palin as their messiah. They forget that she is not the so-con hardliner that they expect her to be. The issue over Palin is the same issue the Republicans are dealing with now – moderates vs hard-liners. I personally view Palin as moderate right so it would make sense that the so-called RINOS would have it out for her.

But the major issue that has deifies/demonizes her is that she almost helped beat Obama. It seems that the first African American presidential candidate was not going to lose unless something “great” shows up and here comes the governor of Alaska the possible first female Vice (ie substiutute) president.

The major issue I have with the hardliners is they are more than for fiscal restraint. Many are social conservatives and see Palin as their messiah. They forget that she is not the so-con hardliner that they expect her to be.

]]> By: Bob http://www.poligazette.com/2009/09/30/palins-new-book-confirms-mccains-communications-machine-was-incompetent-liberal-mccain-staffers-had-a-hostility-to-her-base-and-thus-misjudged-it-may-have-cost-them-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-103688 Bob Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:05:48 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=16370#comment-103688 Half of America has elected a far leftist into the White House. Are the other half of America going to vote a "far" rightist into the White House just to return the favor in 2012? (so to compensate the great shortcomings of the One administration?) We'll find out in November 2010. Half of America has elected a far leftist into the White House. Are the other half of America going to vote a “far” rightist into the White House just to return the favor in 2012? (so to compensate the great shortcomings of the One administration?)

We’ll find out in November 2010.

]]> By: section9 http://www.poligazette.com/2009/09/30/palins-new-book-confirms-mccains-communications-machine-was-incompetent-liberal-mccain-staffers-had-a-hostility-to-her-base-and-thus-misjudged-it-may-have-cost-them-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-102933 section9 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:56:38 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=16370#comment-102933 McCain ran a hideously bad campaign, and the people he assigned to Palin were some of the most wretched people in politics. The people who handled Palin probably will be lucky to work in national politics again. They were the Bush message machine people. You see how the Bush message machine worked out. Palin will do fine. She has control of her own message now, and in that environment, she's always done well. He 2006 AK Gov Campaign was superbly run and on-message. She will surprise a lot of people. McCain ran a hideously bad campaign, and the people he assigned to Palin were some of the most wretched people in politics. The people who handled Palin probably will be lucky to work in national politics again. They were the Bush message machine people.

You see how the Bush message machine worked out.

Palin will do fine. She has control of her own message now, and in that environment, she’s always done well. He 2006 AK Gov Campaign was superbly run and on-message.

She will surprise a lot of people.

]]> By: c3 http://www.poligazette.com/2009/09/30/palins-new-book-confirms-mccains-communications-machine-was-incompetent-liberal-mccain-staffers-had-a-hostility-to-her-base-and-thus-misjudged-it-may-have-cost-them-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-102925 c3 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 00:10:08 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=16370#comment-102925 McCain clearly could have run a better campaign. That's never been a strong suit of his. His last couple elections in AZ have been slam dunks. I'm not sure any Republican candidate would have won in '08. Personally, I would have liked a different VP candidate but it wasn't a big deal for me. Anyway, its all water over the dam. I assume Gov. Palin will have good sales. <i>Pays better than Governor in Alaska</i> McCain clearly could have run a better campaign. That’s never been a strong suit of his. His last couple elections in AZ have been slam dunks. I’m not sure any Republican candidate would have won in ‘08. Personally, I would have liked a different VP candidate but it wasn’t a big deal for me.

Anyway, its all water over the dam.

I assume Gov. Palin will have good sales. Pays better than Governor in Alaska

]]> By: Dan Davis http://www.poligazette.com/2009/09/30/palins-new-book-confirms-mccains-communications-machine-was-incompetent-liberal-mccain-staffers-had-a-hostility-to-her-base-and-thus-misjudged-it-may-have-cost-them-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-102863 Dan Davis Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:19:04 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=16370#comment-102863 The Beltway set have worked as diligently as little Marxists to build their power base, which for them means a huge, interventionist government with permanance for their own jobs and plenty of jobs and perks to hand out to contributors during their endless tenure. The Reagan conservatism, as defined by it's rhetoric, doesn't have much use for permanent political positions and even less for powerful politicians. McCain still seems confused that the Republican base seems to be separating his type out from conservatives. The amazing thing is that Palin was chosen at all since she has always seemed to be shakily feeling her way toward a real small government mindset as opposed to the fake one the GOP has been fooling us with for the last 20+ years. Of course they didn't like her, if they had I probably wouldn't have. The Beltway set have worked as diligently as little Marxists to build their power base, which for them means a huge, interventionist government with permanance for their own jobs and plenty of jobs and perks to hand out to contributors during their endless tenure. The Reagan conservatism, as defined by it’s rhetoric, doesn’t have much use for permanent political positions and even less for powerful politicians. McCain still seems confused that the Republican base seems to be separating his type out from conservatives. The amazing thing is that Palin was chosen at all since she has always seemed to be shakily feeling her way toward a real small government mindset as opposed to the fake one the GOP has been fooling us with for the last 20+ years. Of course they didn’t like her, if they had I probably wouldn’t have.

]]> By: wilky http://www.poligazette.com/2009/09/30/palins-new-book-confirms-mccains-communications-machine-was-incompetent-liberal-mccain-staffers-had-a-hostility-to-her-base-and-thus-misjudged-it-may-have-cost-them-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-102861 wilky Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:06:02 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=16370#comment-102861 Having seen interviews with Palin well before McCain picked her, back when Kudlow and Co. was Kudlow and Cramer, I largely agree with this article. One nit pick. Values only carries baggage with those that don't believe in or have any. Speaking about American values will resonate with a majority of the country. Major Tom, it was not, what do you think of the Bush Doctrine? It was, what IS the Bush? And frankly, at that point I think only Gibson knew the answer he was looking for. Everyone had their own idea, and many didn't mesh. Also, I'm pretty sure that I have not heard any candidate asked then answered what papers they read. She knew that he wanted to know if she read the media approved papers and there was NO good answer to that question. She wasn't quick on her feet in that instance, but I admire the fact that she didn't just do what Obama does, tell them what they want to hear. Having seen interviews with Palin well before McCain picked her, back when Kudlow and Co. was Kudlow and Cramer, I largely agree with this article. One nit pick. Values only carries baggage with those that don’t believe in or have any. Speaking about American values will resonate with a majority of the country.

Major Tom, it was not, what do you think of the Bush Doctrine? It was, what IS the Bush? And frankly, at that point I think only Gibson knew the answer he was looking for. Everyone had their own idea, and many didn’t mesh. Also, I’m pretty sure that I have not heard any candidate asked then answered what papers they read. She knew that he wanted to know if she read the media approved papers and there was NO good answer to that question. She wasn’t quick on her feet in that instance, but I admire the fact that she didn’t just do what Obama does, tell them what they want to hear.

]]> By: CFN http://www.poligazette.com/2009/09/30/palins-new-book-confirms-mccains-communications-machine-was-incompetent-liberal-mccain-staffers-had-a-hostility-to-her-base-and-thus-misjudged-it-may-have-cost-them-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-102858 CFN Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:39:48 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=16370#comment-102858 Tom, perhaps you should have read the links before you spoke as your premises are easily shown to be demonstrably false. There are SIX Bush Doctrines recognized by political scientists. Both Palin and Gibson named one. http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/hey-gibson-about-that-bush-doctrine-there-are-six-of-them-palin-was-right-again/ And the questions - Compare for yourself: Charles Gibson questions to Obama vs. Palin vs. Edwards <strong>Obama interview</strong>: How does it feel to break a glass ceiling? How does it feel to “win”? How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling? Who will be your VP? Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP? Will you accept public finance? What issues is your campaign about? Will you visit Iraq? Will you debate McCain at a town hall? What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech? <strong>Palin interview</strong>: Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders? Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job? Questions about foreign policy -territorial integrity of Georgia -allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO -NATO treaty -Iranian nuclear threat -what to do if Israel attacks Iran -Al Qaeda motivations -the Bush Doctrine -attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan -Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin] <strong>John Edwards</strong>: Gibson Didn’t Pound Edwards in 2004; Asked Him If GOP Attacks Made Him Mad GIBSON: You speak with such equanimity this morning. Didn’t they make you mad last night? GIBSON: Did you get mad, though? Oh Tom by the way, ABC didn't edit out the best parts of the Obama/Edwards interview like they did with Palin. Tom, perhaps you should have read the links before you spoke as your premises are easily shown to be demonstrably false.

There are SIX Bush Doctrines recognized by political scientists. Both Palin and Gibson named one. http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/13/hey-gibson-about-that-bush-doctrine-there-are-six-of-them-palin-was-right-again/

And the questions – Compare for yourself:

Charles Gibson questions to Obama vs. Palin vs. Edwards

Obama interview:
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?

Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
-Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]

John Edwards:

Gibson Didn’t Pound Edwards in 2004; Asked Him If GOP Attacks Made Him Mad

GIBSON: You speak with such equanimity this morning. Didn’t they make you mad last night?

GIBSON: Did you get mad, though?

Oh Tom by the way, ABC didn’t edit out the best parts of the Obama/Edwards interview like they did with Palin.

]]> By: major tom http://www.poligazette.com/2009/09/30/palins-new-book-confirms-mccains-communications-machine-was-incompetent-liberal-mccain-staffers-had-a-hostility-to-her-base-and-thus-misjudged-it-may-have-cost-them-the-election/comment-page-1/#comment-102854 major tom Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:41:14 +0000 http://www.poligazette.com/?p=16370#comment-102854 Gotcha questions... like: What newspapers do you read?... What do you think of the Bush Doctrine?... Yeah... GOTCHA! Gotcha questions… like: What newspapers do you read?… What do you think of the Bush Doctrine?… Yeah… GOTCHA!

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