Conservatives4Palin and Hot Air Go To War

October 30th, 2009 By: Michael van der Galien | Tags: , , , , , ,

Conservatives4Palin quickly became a highly influential website last year and afterwards. It is the place conservatives who support Governor Sarah Palin in one way or another go to. It is also the place where her fans fight smears launched at her by her enemies, both Republicans and Democrats.

Hot Air is one of the biggest and influential blogs in the world – and its run by conservatives. Created by Michelle Malkin, it has two prominent conservatives writing for it, Ed Morrissey and an anonymous blogger who goes by the alias of AllahPundit.

Last time I checked, Hot Air has approximately 1 million hits every day, thereby making it the biggest conservative member of the blogosphere.

Although the two websites share a lot of views and principles – both are conservative, Republican, principled and influential – they are also, sadly, engaged in some kind of feud. Conservatives4Palin has complained for months now that Hot Air’s AllahPundit does not treat Palin fairly, that he uses every anti-Palin headline to continue his smearcampaign against the former Alaska governor and that he, by doing so, discredits himself and the website he writes for.

Hot Air obviously disagrees. AP continues to criticize the governor, mostly, it seems, because he truly believes she doesn’t stand a chance of winning presidential elections and because he appears to believe she just is not fit for the job. In other words, C4P believes Palin is a great Republican, AllahPundit believes she hurts the conservative movement and the Republican brand – or so I gather.

In any case, one hopes the two sides will stop having it in for each other (and each other’s preferred candidates) soon. Even if Palin does not become her party’s presidential nominee three years from now, she is and will for a long time remain a highly influential conservative leader, while C4P and Hot Air will undoubtedly continue to be among the biggest and most influential conservative blogs in the world.

Live and let live, can’t we all get along, give peace a chance, imagine…  you know the drill.

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  1. Michael Merritt
    October 31st, 2009 at 06:36
    Reply | Quote | #1

    Maybe C4P isn’t this way, but a lot of Palin fans are very much like what we saw out of a lot of Obama fans during the last election cycle. They truly think she can do no wrong and will defend her to whatever end. Like the equivalent Obama supporters, they are sycophants.

    To help describe the situation in an easy to remember catchphrase, I have dubbed Palin the “‘Cudassiah”.

  2. Icarus
    October 31st, 2009 at 19:08
    Reply | Quote | #2

    Palin is a divider, not a uniter, even in her own party. She’s also toxic, as recognized by many conservatives except her drooling sycophants.

  3. sue
    November 1st, 2009 at 16:44
    Reply | Quote | #3

    “Palin is a divider, not a uniter, even in her own party. She’s also toxic, as recognized by many conservatives except her drooling sycophants.”

    I perhaps might agree with the premise except for the fact that most everything said against Sarah Palin is simply regurgitate doo-doo streaming out of Bill Maher’s anal cavity.

    As for Allahpundit-that Tweedledee is a Charles Johnson in waiting.

    Come on boys, stiffen up your flaccid and you won’t need the Viagra while yanking yourselves off watching your internet porn addiction.

    PS: Palin is like Rubio, I’ll drool over both.

  4. ShoMeGirl
    November 1st, 2009 at 17:43
    Reply | Quote | #4

    Sarah Palin rocks and AP at HotAir knows it. He posts stuff on HotAir so he can get hits on his threads. He also enjoys being the nemesis. It brings traffic to both blogs and that is not a bad thing.

  5. section9
    November 1st, 2009 at 17:52
    Reply | Quote | #5

    What ShoMeGirl said:

    Allah posts Palin stuff for the hitmeter. Everyone who posts at HA knows this. He leaves Palin posts up a week to keep getting hits at the site. It’s become a standing joke.

    Allah is also a Mittens man. I get Allah’s disdain for the “Cuda, but Allah is too much a Beltway GOP type and doesn’t get what’s going on in the rank and file of the party, while Palin does.

    This whole “conflict” is contrived controversy ginned up to score more hits, btw. That’s the way internet advertising works. BTW, C4P doesn’t do advertising. HA does.

  6. Jenny
    November 1st, 2009 at 18:02
    Reply | Quote | #6

    No one believed that Ronald Reagan would become the Republican nominee let alone become president either. Yet, the Palin bashers at Hot Air seem to have forgotten that lesson. They would rather attach themselves to a squishy moderate/liberal in the form of Mittens Romney. It is a failed strategy – “blurring the lines” as Governor Palin (quoting Reagan) pointed out is not a path toward victory. Why? Even if Mittens wins conservatives lose. He will forever link Republicans and by extension conservatives with the notion that there is no difference between the parties. He will reinforce the perception that conservatives have embraced Bush’s so called “compassionate conservatism” – IE: big government liberalism.

    As for me, I will stick with a true conservative – Sarah Palin.

  7. Doomed
    November 1st, 2009 at 18:53
    Reply | Quote | #7

    The more the left Alinskizes Palin the more the right needs to know that what she says more then who she is…….is a danger to the Democrats/left agenda.

    Alinskize God to remove God from America so that gay rights, porn, drugs and Abortion are norms rather then Taboo’s.

    Alinskize Global Warming so that the radical progressives can penalize industry and transfer wealth from America to deveolping nations further Usurping free markets and making America more and more dependent upon government rather then less.

    Alinskize Health care so that we can continue to punish free markets, and further push bigger and bigger government into the mainstream.

    Alinskize Illegal aliens so that the GOP hangs their heads in shame as the proponets hang the tag BIGGOTS on the right knowing full well that the left cares not one IOTA for the illegal poor people……they only see them as MORE DEMOCRATIC VOTES….not people to be helped.

    The more Sarah Palin shines a light on these things….the more she will be Alinskized and the more she is Alinskized the more conservatives need to realize they need to fight for what is right for their party.

    NOT CAPITULATE!!!!!

  8. Lee
    November 1st, 2009 at 22:49
    Reply | Quote | #8

    During the 2008 campaign, Michelle Malkin and Hot Air did all they could to defeat the GOP ticket. AllahPukeit was the worst, very explicitly going out of his (her?–I’ve wondered if AP is simply a cover for Malkin herself) way to turn even the most positive story into a downer. Hopefully Obama’s efforts to control the media will fail… but only after Malkin and HA are shut down.

    C4P has its problems (such as its ban on discussing Obama Constitutional eligibility issues). It can be a bit too apologetic for future President Palin at times, but by and large it’s a worthwhile project.

  9. Xkrat
    November 2nd, 2009 at 02:53
    Reply | Quote | #9

    Sarah Palin is simply not the professional politician Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Mike Huckabee are. She is no elitist and yes there are conservative elitist too. She is a common man’s populist traditionalist and that’s what makes her so appealing to average person. One thing needs to be noted here C4P exist to support and defend Palin, Hot Air doesn’t but there are a great portion of those “1 million hits every day” who are Palin “sychophants”. So Sarah wins both ways. AllahPundit can oppose Sarah—that’s his right, but that won’t stop the Barracuda from winning the GOP nomination one primary/caucus at a time. 2012, I can hardly wait for you!

  10. Michael Merritt
    November 2nd, 2009 at 03:28

    During the 2008 campaign, Michelle Malkin and Hot Air did all they could to defeat the GOP ticket.

    Evidence? I just spent 5 minutes looking at her archives, and can not see one article that looks like an attack on Palin. Perhaps Malkin isn’t a Palin sycophant, but I see no evidence that she dislikes Palin.

    But maybe I missed the one article criticizing her in some small way. Lets not forget. For the disciples of the Obamessiah and the ‘Cudassiah, even small criticism is an attack.

  11. Interested
    November 2nd, 2009 at 06:04

    Lee :
    C4P has its problems (such as its ban on discussing Obama Constitutional eligibility issues). It can be a bit too apologetic for future President Palin at times, but by and large it’s a worthwhile project.

    It’s a good policy for them to take. #44 provides us day after day with plenty to bring to light and use against a progressive agenda. All the constitutional issue’s are is white noise – drowning out purpose.

    Personally I’m failing to see why Palin has deserved what she’s gotten from parts of the GOP tent. I can understand the Liberals, but as a Conservative Republican she’s walked the walk. Sure she’s a bit wet behind the ears – but #44’s still in diapers by comparison.

    GOP’s left her out to swing in the breeze on her own, and it’s a shame.

  12. Xkrat
    November 2nd, 2009 at 07:54

    Latest PPP Poll: Hoffman leads big

    Doug Hoffman has a commanding lead

    The bottom line though is that Hoffman led by double digits during every segment of the poll, an indication that he may have been headed for a definitive victory regardless of Scozzafava’s actions over the course of the weekend.Hoffman is leading Scozzafava 71-15 among Republicans with 12% going to Owens. Among Democrats Owens gets 67% to 21% for Hoffman and 10% for Scozzafava. Hoffman leads Owens 52-30 with independents.One key finding that may have ultimately scuttled Scozzafava’s candidacy: 59% of Republicans considered her to be a liberal and only 7% thought she was a conservative. By comparison 80% of them consider Hoffman to be a conservative, and that’s a good thing where nearly two thirds of GOP voters define themselves that way.

  13. FeFe
    November 2nd, 2009 at 09:29

    Palin Palin Palin! But unlike Marsha Brady and AP, Sarahcuda can catch a football or take it to the net.

  14. narciso
    November 2nd, 2009 at 19:00

    Malkin is a pretty stalwart supporter, she doesn’t have much control over Allah, one of the guests on her blog. He does repeat a good deal of the negative stories
    and push polls without any context, He gets outvoted more often than not, in the comment sections of such threads. Plus the Green Room section, featuring Doctor Zero, Dab yn Hugh, and CK Macleod is generally more hospitable to her, and to conservative foreign and domestic policy principles generally

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