Trying Terrorists as Civilians
Yesterday, President Obama announced he wants to try terrorism suspects as civilians. This means that he will definitively reverse his predecessor’s policy, of treating terrorists as “enemy combatants.”
Although the decision was warmly received by leftists, most conservatives strongly disagreed:
David Horowitz: “The administration is justifying its decisions on the grounds that because the 9/11 attackers targeted civilians they should be tried as civilians. This makes no sense unless you are a Democrat who believes that the “holy war” that Islamic jihadists have formally declared on us is no different from the acts of isolated individuals who have decided to break the law. This is the approach to the war on terror that John Kerry championed in 2004. Now that Americans have had the poor judgment — the suicidally poor judgment — to make a leftist their president, this is the strategy our nation is set to pursue.”
Fausta Wertz: “The Obama administration has made a suicidal decision. We are all going to pay for it.”
Andy McCarthy, who prosecuted the first WTC attack perpetrators, as Fausta points out: “Today’s announcement that KSM and other top al Qaeda terrorists will be transferred to Manhattan federal court for civilian trials neatly fits this hidden agenda. Nothing results in more disclosures of government intelligence than civilian trials. They are a banquet of information, not just at the discovery stage but in the trial process itself, where witnesses — intelligence sources — must expose themselves and their secrets.”
Michelle Malkin: “If this White House thought Tea Party activists were an “angry mob,” wait until they see the backlash from 9/11 family members and their supporters nationwide. We’re not going to sit down and shut up about the reckless, security-undermining Obama 9/10 agenda and conflict-of-interest-ridden AG Eric Holder.”
Hot Air published two videos of Mayor Rudi Giuliania going nuclear on Obama for wanting to try terrorist mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in New York City. Watch the video below the fold: “One: Unlike Rudy, I’m not worried about the terror threat to NYC from holding the trial here. The NYPD’s been building counterterror resources for eight years; we’re probably better equipped than any other city to deal with it. Two: I haven’t seen it mentioned elsewhere today, but note the perverse incentive this creates. In a sane world, a jihadist who limited his attacks to military targets that are capable of defending themselves would receive more legal protection than one who targeted civilians. In our world, the guy who ordered jumbo jets flown into skyscrapers gets the full complement of constitutional rights in federal district court. Simply put, a terrorist looking to run up a body count is better off going to the mall than to a military base, where the UCMJ might come into play. (Hasan is an obvious example, although his case is unusual because he’s a military man himself.)”
Charles Krauthammer: “Most Americans, we suspect, can overlook the legal niceties and see this episode through the lens of common sense. Foreign terrorists who wage war on America and everything it stands for have no place sitting in a court of law born of the values they so detest. Mr. Holder has honored mass murder by treating it like any other crime.”
Tom Maguire: “Team Obama has to postpone these trials until after the 2010 elections or this will go down as the biggest “own-goal” of the centurymillenium.”
John Hinderaker: “Ask yourself this question: suppose that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed’s trial results in an acquittal or a hung jury. Would the Obama administration really let him go? If so, they are crazy. If not, why are they holding the trial?”











hmmm, well (much to the lefts chagrin) Realities are realities. There were no attacks on US Soil after 9/11 while Bush was President. That was him doing things his way and the results are what they are. (despite the endless attempts to cover up this fact).
If that situation changes with 44 in office – the results will be the results.
Of course, 44 benefits from the changes Bush did – the ones he was so against, before he was for them.
There have been many thwarted attempts since 9/11. It took years after the first bombing of the Trade Center and the USS Cole before we were attacked again. We were attacked under the watch of President Bush and he was warned that an attack was coming. These terrorist are just that-terrorist who committed an unthinkable crime on American soil. We really have not declared a war on any country-except the wrong one in Iraq. So it is a matter of nothing more than opinion that these terrorists/criminals really do fit the definition of war criminals. We would not consider a home grown terrorist to be a war criminal for committing the same or similar type of crime. Honestly, I think it is a good thing they will be brought here and tried under US law. They will receive a fair trial that the world will witness and they will then pay for their crimes-under US Law- all above board and the way it should be. I have faith in our justice system here in the US, from the reaction of many quoted here, they do not.
Compare and contrast 9/11 with Pearl Harbor:
Both were massive intelligence failures, but the Japanese used their own planes.
What’s good for Obama Goose — trying asymmetrical KSM as a civilian — should be good for Obama Gander: Congress must formally declare war on *** fill-in-the-blank *** to continue the 2009 Afghanistan war of Candidate Obama’s and Hamid Karzai’s 2008 necessity. Otherwise President Obama has to withdraw all military troops and use federal marshalls only for his Afghanistan ‘nation-building’, ‘peace-making’, and ‘law-enforcement’ campaign.
Compare and contrast Marcia Clark with Eric Holder:
Both thought they had an airtight case going in, but Marcia Clark didn’t act as a pre-defense defense attorney for OJ.
Compare and contrast Nidal Malik Hasan with President Barack Nobel Obama:
All the warning signs were missed with both, and 1,300 US service personnel could end up dead overseas because of traitorous, duplicitous, and ASYMMETRICAL decisions by Obama in Afganistan.
Compare and contrast 40% of the American public with the entire Muslim world:
Forty percent of the American public still want to see Obama’s Iraq/Afghanistan/Pakistan as Bush’s fault and Bush’s doing. The entire Muslim world sees clearly that everything now going on in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan is of Obama’s choice and making, not Bush’s. The comparison is the contrast, and vice versa.
John Hinderaker and Charles Krauthammer both best cut to President Obama’s traitorous, duplicitous, and asymmetrical chase.
CNN poll: 64% of Americans are … un-American?
“This weekend, Rep. Jim Moran (D-VA) called people who oppose criminal trials in federal court for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and the 9/11 plotters “un-American.” It turns out that there is an epidemic of this lack of patriotism, according to CNN.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/17/cnn-poll-64-of-americans-are-un-american/
Just 29% agree with the decision to try Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and five other terrorists suspects in a New York city courtroom.
Only 14% believe terrorist suspects should receive the same legal rights in court as U.S. citizens.
This is from Rasmussen. Even if its not accurate….14 percent???? Lets say its half accurate…….28 percent?
This is just another example of Obama playing to his BASE of hard core far left extremist progressives. That frothing, screaming miniority who managed to get all the newspapers in the USA convinced that GWB was wiping his butt with the constitution every day. Radicals all.
Now the only thing they have to write about is how evil Sarah Palin is for not being totally accurate about how she told her family she was picked to be VP.
My gosh…Wheres Woodward and Bernstein when ya need em.
Oh thats right we have The Moonbat Andrew Sullivan watching out for us now.
Gotta Love Chuck “Mr. Short Term Memory” Schumer..
“First, the Government must have the power to use even the most sensitive classified evidence against these suspects without compromising national security in any way, shape, or form. In addition, those who commit acts of war against the United States, particularly those who have no color of citizenship, don’t deserve the same panoply of due process rights that American citizens receive. Should Osama bin Laden be captured alive—and I imagine most Americans hope he won’t be captured alive. But if he is, it is ludicrous to suggest he should be tried in a Federal court on Center Street in Lower Manhattan.”
http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2009/nov/19/sen-schumer-2001-those-who-attack-us-dont-deserve-/
can’t wait for his excuse, you know its going to be “well, Its a lot more coplicated than that” “my words were twisted” or “Gotcha Politics” right?