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	<title>Comments on: The Anti-War Left Still Doesn&#8217;t Understand Obama and Afghanistan</title>
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		<title>By: PoliGazette &#187; Glenn Greenwald Gets Obama&#8217;s Foreign Policy</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliGazette &#187; Glenn Greenwald Gets Obama&#8217;s Foreign Policy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sure it&#8217;s the last thing you expect to see written at this site, but it&#8217;s true.  In a recent article, I hounded liberals on being blind to Barack Obama&#8217;s stance of the Afghanistan War during the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sure it&#8217;s the last thing you expect to see written at this site, but it&#8217;s true.  In a recent article, I hounded liberals on being blind to Barack Obama&#8217;s stance of the Afghanistan War during the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Merritt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Merritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-106731&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-106731&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dom youngross&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
or does your desire to expose and route out hypocrisy have a partisan limit?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poligazette.com/2009/12/01/the-war-on-eid-al-adha/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No&lt;/a&gt;

And I wouldn&#039;t call this hypocrisy.  More like voluntary ignorance.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-106748&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-106748&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alan&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He did say that we should take away troops from Iraq and concentrate on the real war in Afghanistan, pre-election. Maybe they forgot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unlikely.  They hoped Obama would forget, perhaps, but if so, they were deluding themselves.

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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-106752&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doomed&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But the war was nothing more then a means to an end…GAIN POWER AT ANY COST.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you mean Obama on this, I&#039;m not sure how not changing your position on Afghanistan for seven years is using that war as a means to an end.  Even on Iraq, though his plans have slightly changed, he still aims to end it relatively quickly.  Which was also one of his positions for a long time.

The fact that these two wars still continue has enraged the Left (and the libertarians, as seen above).  I say to them: tough noogies.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-106731" rel="nofollow">dom youngross</a> :</strong><br />
or does your desire to expose and route out hypocrisy have a partisan limit?</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.poligazette.com/2009/12/01/the-war-on-eid-al-adha/" rel="nofollow">No</a></p>
<p>And I wouldn&#8217;t call this hypocrisy.  More like voluntary ignorance.</p>
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<strong><a href="#comment-106748" rel="nofollow">Alan</a> :</strong></p>
<p>He did say that we should take away troops from Iraq and concentrate on the real war in Afghanistan, pre-election. Maybe they forgot.</p>
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<p>Unlikely.  They hoped Obama would forget, perhaps, but if so, they were deluding themselves.</p>
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<strong><a href="#comment-106752" rel="nofollow">Doomed</a> :</strong></p>
<p>But the war was nothing more then a means to an end…GAIN POWER AT ANY COST.</p>
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<p>If you mean Obama on this, I&#8217;m not sure how not changing your position on Afghanistan for seven years is using that war as a means to an end.  Even on Iraq, though his plans have slightly changed, he still aims to end it relatively quickly.  Which was also one of his positions for a long time.</p>
<p>The fact that these two wars still continue has enraged the Left (and the libertarians, as seen above).  I say to them: tough noogies.</p>
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		<title>By: Doomed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doomed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recent polls show that 67 percent of democrats either oppose sending more troops or at worst want the levels to remain where they are.

If the base doesn&#039;t support it, (Afghanistan) then why did candidates promise it?

Because Democratic voters and candidates were playing a complex game.  Nearly all of them hated the war in Iraq and wanted to pull Americans out of that country.  But they were afraid to appear soft on national security, so they pronounced the smaller conflict in Afghanistan one they could support.  

Many of them didn’t, really, as the polls show, but for political expediency they supported candidates who said they did.  Thus the party base signed on to a good war-bad war strategy.

Iraq Bad.  Afghanistan Good.  

Now its time to fulfill campaign promises and Obama is being torn in many directions.

See the letter Michael Moore sent to Obama.

Say anything to get elected....Saul Alinsky.....well he did...and he got elected.  Now not only does he have his far left base angry but hes got the entire right angry and the MODERATES?

They are jumping ship to the tune of 57-43 percent disapproval of Obama and the democrats.

But the war was nothing more then a means to an end...GAIN POWER AT ANY COST.

Well the cost is now....the loss of power because after all the democrats only really know one thing.

Being the purveyors of perpetual poverty to maintain power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recent polls show that 67 percent of democrats either oppose sending more troops or at worst want the levels to remain where they are.</p>
<p>If the base doesn&#8217;t support it, (Afghanistan) then why did candidates promise it?</p>
<p>Because Democratic voters and candidates were playing a complex game.  Nearly all of them hated the war in Iraq and wanted to pull Americans out of that country.  But they were afraid to appear soft on national security, so they pronounced the smaller conflict in Afghanistan one they could support.  </p>
<p>Many of them didn’t, really, as the polls show, but for political expediency they supported candidates who said they did.  Thus the party base signed on to a good war-bad war strategy.</p>
<p>Iraq Bad.  Afghanistan Good.  </p>
<p>Now its time to fulfill campaign promises and Obama is being torn in many directions.</p>
<p>See the letter Michael Moore sent to Obama.</p>
<p>Say anything to get elected&#8230;.Saul Alinsky&#8230;..well he did&#8230;and he got elected.  Now not only does he have his far left base angry but hes got the entire right angry and the MODERATES?</p>
<p>They are jumping ship to the tune of 57-43 percent disapproval of Obama and the democrats.</p>
<p>But the war was nothing more then a means to an end&#8230;GAIN POWER AT ANY COST.</p>
<p>Well the cost is now&#8230;.the loss of power because after all the democrats only really know one thing.</p>
<p>Being the purveyors of perpetual poverty to maintain power.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He did say that we should take away troops from Iraq and concentrate on the real war in Afghanistan, pre-election. Maybe they forgot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He did say that we should take away troops from Iraq and concentrate on the real war in Afghanistan, pre-election. Maybe they forgot.</p>
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		<title>By: Doomed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doomed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here we see the classic example of why I keep proclaiming that the DEMOCRATS...not far left liberals....but DEMOCRATS....

Latched on to the antiwar movement as the perfect way to gain back power.  They then hammered the war relentlessly for 7 years until BUSH was gone and they had all 3 branches of government firmly in their grubby and greedy little hands.

Now that they are in power they are finding.......

Oh My Gosh

Gitmo wasnt such a bad place.

Tribunals are prolly the best thing to do.

Bush really wasnt pissing on the constitution every day.

Wire taps and protecting Americans is a lot trickier then far left or Anti Republican bloggers make it out to be.

Balancing the Budget aint that easy.

Providing Jobs requires catering to BIDNESS and not communist workers.

Iraq might not have been necessary but now that your there....you just dont leave.

and the list goes on and on and on and on.

The far left are IDIOT...MORON...Whackos.  They simply are...The subscribe to their own religion...It just doesnt has a different GOD as its centerpiece...It has a mantra.

Saul Alinsky.

And so it goes.

The Democrats are opportunist liars...whose entire focus in life is to keep the POOR in perpetual POVERTY while making that poverty COMFORTABLE.

And so it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here we see the classic example of why I keep proclaiming that the DEMOCRATS&#8230;not far left liberals&#8230;.but DEMOCRATS&#8230;.</p>
<p>Latched on to the antiwar movement as the perfect way to gain back power.  They then hammered the war relentlessly for 7 years until BUSH was gone and they had all 3 branches of government firmly in their grubby and greedy little hands.</p>
<p>Now that they are in power they are finding&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Oh My Gosh</p>
<p>Gitmo wasnt such a bad place.</p>
<p>Tribunals are prolly the best thing to do.</p>
<p>Bush really wasnt pissing on the constitution every day.</p>
<p>Wire taps and protecting Americans is a lot trickier then far left or Anti Republican bloggers make it out to be.</p>
<p>Balancing the Budget aint that easy.</p>
<p>Providing Jobs requires catering to BIDNESS and not communist workers.</p>
<p>Iraq might not have been necessary but now that your there&#8230;.you just dont leave.</p>
<p>and the list goes on and on and on and on.</p>
<p>The far left are IDIOT&#8230;MORON&#8230;Whackos.  They simply are&#8230;The subscribe to their own religion&#8230;It just doesnt has a different GOD as its centerpiece&#8230;It has a mantra.</p>
<p>Saul Alinsky.</p>
<p>And so it goes.</p>
<p>The Democrats are opportunist liars&#8230;whose entire focus in life is to keep the POOR in perpetual POVERTY while making that poverty COMFORTABLE.</p>
<p>And so it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: dom youngross</title>
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		<dc:creator>dom youngross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 10:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Michael Merrit, seems you&#039;re in for the buck with this piece in regards to recognizing hypocrisy coming from the &#039;left.&#039; Good for you!

But are you and everyone else so minded also in for the bundle, or does your desire to expose and route out hypocrisy have a partisan limit?

If Rep. Ron Paul had won last year&#039;s presidential election, we would be forthrightly pulling the plug on both Iraq and Afghanistan. And we wouldn&#039;t have floated sweet cash-flow loans to Goldman Sachs and AIG. And we wouldn&#039;t be creating new beauracracies to raise the delivery costs of medical services.

Et cetera.

So the problem the Michael Moore crowd had with recognizing the hypocrisy of Obama isn&#039;t so strange and abnormal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Michael Merrit, seems you&#8217;re in for the buck with this piece in regards to recognizing hypocrisy coming from the &#8216;left.&#8217; Good for you!</p>
<p>But are you and everyone else so minded also in for the bundle, or does your desire to expose and route out hypocrisy have a partisan limit?</p>
<p>If Rep. Ron Paul had won last year&#8217;s presidential election, we would be forthrightly pulling the plug on both Iraq and Afghanistan. And we wouldn&#8217;t have floated sweet cash-flow loans to Goldman Sachs and AIG. And we wouldn&#8217;t be creating new beauracracies to raise the delivery costs of medical services.</p>
<p>Et cetera.</p>
<p>So the problem the Michael Moore crowd had with recognizing the hypocrisy of Obama isn&#8217;t so strange and abnormal.</p>
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